1986 240 DL - Won't start

Discussion in 'Volvo 240' started by DJ SIEGE, Jul 24, 2004.

  1. DJ SIEGE

    DJ SIEGE Guest

    Last night I drove to taco bell, went through the drive through. I was so
    hungry I stopped in the parking lot to eat. 5 minutes later I try to start
    up, no ignition.(no start) Radio, open door signal and lights work though.
    I had to get a tow back home.

    What could this be, the starter?

    How much would this be to get fixed at a volvo garage?
    Or how difficult could it be to try and fix myself?

    Any info is greatly appreciated.
     
    DJ SIEGE, Jul 24, 2004
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    Bruce Pick Guest

    Sorry to say, you're not nearly specific enough.

    If engine does not turn over (no chug-chug when you turn the key) then
    you have a battery or starter motor problem. Battery is about $60-100,
    starter motor is more like $300 installed. Not a very easy job. You
    can use a rebuilt or one from a junker, but I found no cheap solution
    for a dead starter.

    If engine turns over but does not catch, then you must have a fuel or
    spark problem.
    Easily fixed versions of these:
    1) Bad ingition system fuse (0r bad contact in the fuse/holder). It's
    a white plastic holder, about 1 foot rear of the battery, on the fender
    wall. Handle with care as it has two positive wire leads; either will
    ground to anything if they come loose.
    2) Fuel pump relay kicked loose from its wire plug-in. Located in front
    of front passenter's right foot, on the firewall. An angry passenger
    kicked mine loose a couple times. Or the relay could be dead.
    Other trouble sources: bad computer, bad in-tank or out-of-tank fuel
    pump (you have one of each). All these are jobs for a knowledgable shop
    and will cost some good money.

    Bruce Pick
     
    Bruce Pick, Jul 24, 2004
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  3. DJ SIEGE

    Bruce Pick Guest

    Well, you can go nearly anywhere in a Volvo, so why not Taco Bell??

    More seriously, I do recall someone who tried to start their auto trans.
    Volvo with the transmission in "Drive" and asked me to go have a look to
    see what was wrong with it. Start in Park or Neutral, and if a
    standard, I believe you must step on the clutch pedal.

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    Bruce Pick, Jul 25, 2004
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  4. Shift or Automatic.
    If shift did you try to start under tow.
    You went to Taco Bell in a Volvo.
     
    noreply@invalid, Jul 25, 2004
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  5. DJ SIEGE

    DJ SIEGE Guest

    Must be the starter.?
     
    DJ SIEGE, Jul 25, 2004
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  6. DJ SIEGE

    Bruce Pick Guest

    I understand - no sound at all when you turn the key.

    In that case, it's a starting system problem:
    Either the battery, the starter motor, or the switching / wiring that
    make the starter motor turn. Could also be that the alternator has died
    (or the wiring to/from the alternator), and so your battery was not
    being charged.

    Jump-starting the battery is a low-cost way to see if you can get going.
    If you try this, be sure to let the "good" car run for 15-20 minutes
    with your car completely shut off. Then, with the good car NOT RUNNING,
    try to start yours. With luck, it will start, and you can at least get
    to a shop or to a friend with a voltmeter tester, to find the source of
    your problem.

    Starting your (disabled) car with the good car STILL RUNNING can burn
    out the good car's alternator. A little-known fact, but true, as the
    alternator will try to supply 100-200-300 or more amps needed to start
    your car. Alternators are only built to provide about 60-80 amps
    (depending on model), which is why you can burn out the alternator that
    way. A good battery can easily supply 600 or even 800 amps.
     
    Bruce Pick, Jul 26, 2004
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    blurp Guest

    Having been the victim of my own forgetfulness AND having pointed this
    out to several sheepish stranded motorists I must concur with noreply
    and expand: if your transmission is not properly engaged in the
    appropriate gear the starter system will not function at all.

    For example, you drive away from the pimply teenager at the Taco Bell
    window and, overcome by hunger, you pull into a spot and shut the car
    off WHILE STILL IN GEAR. If the car is in gear then turning the key
    will have no result whatsoever, not a click, not a hum, not turning
    over...NOTHING. My friend was "stranded" this way and left his 240
    parked at side of the road for 2 weeks while he contemplated getting
    rid of it instead of getting involved in an expensive
    diagnostic/repair job. He felt pretty foolish when I pointed out the
    car was in gear and it fired up right away when he shifted into park.

    Twice I have been flagged down for a boost at the mall and pointed out
    to the driver that their car was still in gear. This error can only be
    made in an automatic car since (I think) manual transmissions require
    you to step on the clutch to start.

    First time I made this mistake I had my dad's Mercedes (without
    permission) and I spent 40 minutes parked thinking I was gonna die.
    Then I put it in gear and drove home.

    blurp
     
    blurp, Jul 26, 2004
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  8. DJ SIEGE

    DJ SIEGE Guest

    Hot Damn! That worked.
    I just shifted it back and forth,and then to park , and it friggin
    started!
    Thank you.

    This group is the greatest.
     
    DJ SIEGE, Jul 27, 2004
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    Bruce Pick Guest

    You're the greatest also.
    And, you now have a pretty decent troubleshooting guide for whenever you
    or a friend ahs a car that won't start. Makes you even greater?
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    Bruce Pick, Jul 28, 2004
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