1988 240 Steering Rack failure: P/S Pump as Well?

Discussion in 'Volvo 240' started by mjc, Sep 9, 2006.

  1. mjc

    mjc Guest

    Our 240 has been showing signs of a dying steering rack for
    two years. Since we only use it as a spare car, we haven't been
    proactive about replacing it - especially because it has had to
    have brakes and an exhaust as well. Last month the rack died
    while my housemate was getting ready to drive the car. It dumped
    fluid in the driveway, and the pump was groaning. I refilled the
    reservoir (having not yet seen the massive leak), but even with
    fluid in it the pump makes *lots* of noise. Is this likely to be
    just air in the system, or do the pumps fail that quickly (maybe
    5 minutes run time, at most) when deprived of fluid? It wasn't
    noisy before the rack went.

    And what is a decent price to have an indie shop replace both
    units with rebuilt parts?
     
    mjc, Sep 9, 2006
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  2. mjc

    James Sweet Guest


    The pumps can be real noisy with air in the system, replace the rack or
    whatever else is leaking (have you checked the hoses and fittings?) and
    then go from there. A new steering rack is a few hundred bucks, not sure
    how much labor would cost but it shouldn't take more than an hour for a
    competent mechanic.
     
    James Sweet, Sep 9, 2006
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  3. mjc

    mjc Guest


    The one estimate we got so far was for $800 for the rack,
    $1300 for both units. About 5 years ago I got an estimate of $700
    for the rack. (It turned out to be just the steering U-joint back
    then.) We'll try a couple more shops. The parts are only about
    $300 plus core charges from NAPA.

    BTW, is this a ZF unit, or did they use different ones even
    in the same model year?
     
    mjc, Sep 10, 2006
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  4. mjc

    James Sweet Guest


    Check out alloemvolvoparts.com and fcpgroton.com, you can probably pick
    up a rack for a bit less.
     
    James Sweet, Sep 10, 2006
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  5. mjc

    mjc Guest


    The labor charge is the real killer, here. I can't do the
    job myself, and want to know what the low end would be for having
    a shop do it. I don't think it'll be $65 for labor.... ;-)
     
    mjc, Sep 10, 2006
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  6. mjc

    James Sweet Guest

    Well most shops won't want you to bring in your own part, labor will be
    whatever they tell you it'll be. It's really not a difficult job, but if
    you can't do it yourself you pretty much have to pay whatever they
    happen to charge.
     
    James Sweet, Sep 11, 2006
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  7. mjc

    mjc Guest


    Let me try again. I was asking what people have paid for this
    job. I priced NAPA parts because it isn't hard to find shops here
    that use them. I'm hoping to establish what is "high", "low" and
    "reasonable" to pay for this job. I was also wondering if the ZF
    rack was the only one used in '88, or if others were as well.
     
    mjc, Sep 11, 2006
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  8. mjc

    M-gineering Guest

    3 hour job excluding the wheelalignment, besides ZF Volvo used Camgear
     
    M-gineering, Sep 11, 2006
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  9. This will be close to the price. Shop rate at shop you choose X 3 hours +
    online part cost X2. Most shops plan to make money on the parts they sell.
    They mark them up not just to add to profit but to cover their acquisition
    costs, ready availability from suppliers and the fact that they can cover
    their additional costs if the part acquired should be wrong part, fail or
    otherwise need to be replaced at shop expense. When you walk in with a part
    they not only don't make the markup they are really, really trusting that it
    is the correct part and that it came from a "trusted" supplier. I can
    understand that they won't work with parts you walk in with. I have been
    able to do this with one of my two Volvo's but only when the shop did not
    have ready access to the part.

    Hope this helps
    Howard
     
    Howard Nelson, Sep 11, 2006
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  10. mjc

    mjc Guest

    Thanks.
     
    mjc, Sep 12, 2006
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