1990 Volvo DL Overdrive problem

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Bradford B Fassett, May 18, 2004.

  1. Brief Specs: Volvo 240DL 215,000+ miles

    Problem Summary: Vehicle won't shift into 4th gear. Overdrive uparrow
    on dash board appears as soon as ignition starts. Arrow on dash stays
    on regardless of any changing conditions besides turning car off.
    Overdrive button on side of shifter is unresponsive.

    History:

    I was driving across country from Massachusetts to California, and
    around the last exit on rte. 90 in upstate New York, my automatic
    transmission dropped out of 4th gear and into 3rd gear, while the yellow
    overdrive arrow appeared on my dashboard. I immeadiately stopped,
    turned off the engine, pressed the overdrive button on the side of the
    shifter, and restarted the engine. As soon as the ignition started, the
    overdrive arrow appeared on the dash, and wouldn't dissappear if the
    overdrive button was depressed on the side of the shifter. The
    transmission shifts fine for the first three gears, but won't go into
    fourth gear. I had to drive 2000+ miles in 3rd gear, trying to keep the
    speed around 60MPH, as to try and limit the wear on the engine and
    third gear. I have been told that losing fourth gear is a sign that the
    transmission is going, but I have also read on google groups that it
    might be my overdrive relay. I hope that this is a rather benign
    overdrive problem as opposed to a substaintal transmisson problem, which
    would likely be too expensive to fix. Does anybody have any suggestion?

    Brad in CA

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    Bradford Benjamin Fassett


    "Don't Make me take off my Sunglasses!!"
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    Bradford B Fassett, May 18, 2004
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  2. The most likely culprit is the overdrive relay. It is located above the
    fuse panel, behind the ashtray. It replacing this doesn't cure the problem,
    you may have a bad overdrive solenoid (located on the side of the
    transmission housing) or the wiring to the solenoid may be broken or
    otherwise have a bad connection.
    These electric overdrives are a notorious pain in the *&%$#@ but at least
    it's not the transmission itself.
     
    Jeffrey M Copeland, May 18, 2004
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  3. Bradford B Fassett

    Mike F Guest

    While I agree it's the overdrive relay, the location described is for a
    740. On the 240 it is located just to the left of the glovebox. The
    easiest way to get at it is to remove the glovebox complete (7 screws).
    The overdrive relay is white about 2"x1"x1".

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    Mike F.
    Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont.

    NOTE: new address!!
    Replace tt with t (twice!) and remove parentheses to email me directly.
    (But I check the newsgroup more often than this email address.)
     
    Mike F, May 18, 2004
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  4. Oops! I didn't read the original post carefully enough.
    Yep, OD relay on a 240 is to the left of the glovebox. As you may have
    guessed, I have a 740 and have recently replaced the OD relay. Now, I seem
    to be having problems with the overdrive solenoid, too.
    I'm really getting fed up with this electric overdrive system!!! I doubt I
    will ever buy another car that uses it. Fortunatly, the newer Volvos have
    abandoned this Rube Goldberg approach to engaging fourth gear (too many
    things to potentially go wrong) and have employed a conventional PRND321
    shift pattern.
    Personally, I prefer a proper manual gearbox but, sadly, I have to settle
    for an automatic to appease the wife. Not to mention that here in the
    States, manual Volvos are as rare as hen's teeth.
     
    Jeffrey M Copeland, May 19, 2004
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