2.5L B5254T2 motor, as in XC70. How does it differ from the older B5344T3?

Discussion in 'Volvo C70' started by Jim Kelly, Jan 25, 2004.

  1. Jim Kelly

    Jim Kelly Guest

    Some 2003 XC70 [from Aug 2003 on?] and the 2004 models have
    the 2.5L motor, B5254T2, [154kw, 320nm].

    Any comments about this motor?
    How does it differ from the older B5344T3 [147kw, 285nm]?

    Thanks,

    Jim Kelly.
     
    Jim Kelly, Jan 25, 2004
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  2. Jim Kelly

    Rob Guenther Guest

    My Volvo dealer said they installed the 208hp, 236lbft engine on the XC70
    over the normal 197hp, 210lbft engine to compensate for the extra weight of
    it over the normal V70.... I think the new V70s have more power now too tho.
     
    Rob Guenther, Jan 25, 2004
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  3. Jim Kelly

    Jim Kelly Guest

    That makes sense. My 850-T5 has more power and less weight than the
    xc and I don't think of it as a powerful car. Hopefully the 5 speed
    auto (over the T5's 4 speed) and a little extra torque make it
    comparable in acceleration? Plenty of inexpensive cars with v6
    motors have more power, let alone those with v8 motors! It's a pity
    that these expensive 'luxury' vehicles don't have a bit more grunt!

    Cheers,

    Jim Kelly

    | My Volvo dealer said they installed the 208hp, 236lbft engine on
    the XC70
    | over the normal 197hp, 210lbft engine to compensate for the extra
    weight of
    | it over the normal V70.... I think the new V70s have more power
    now too tho.
     
    Jim Kelly, Jan 25, 2004
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  4. Jim Kelly

    Rob Guenther Guest

    I guess it depends on what you want. I'm used to driving slow cars, so when
    I get into the 960 I feel like it's a rocket of a car... I've been in a
    197hp V70 with the 5 speed auto, it felt pretty damn quick to me... Then
    again you might find it slow, who knows.

    Personally I'm glad Volvo isn't in that outrageous horsepower competition,
    by cramming in overpowered V6's into their cars.... Who needs something like
    240hp in a Honda Accord???

    Would be nice if the S80 was rear drive and had a V8 option tho...
    considering the car it fights against.
     
    Rob Guenther, Jan 25, 2004
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  5. The numbers tells you alot about the engine. B for Benzin / Gasoline, 5 = 5
    cylinders, 25 = 2,5 lit. , 4 = valves per cylinder. T2 = Low pressure turbo
    gives you B5254T2

    How does it differ from the older B5344T3 [147kw, 285nm]?
    Do you mean B5234T3? That should give you a 5 cylinder 2,3 L 20valve head
    and high pressure turbo. Here in norway it gives you a output of 230HP later
    model 250 HP.
     
    Svenni & Nina, Jan 25, 2004
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  6. Jim Kelly

    Jim Kelly Guest

    Sorry. Perhaps the older motor in the XC is a B5244T3 [147kw,
    285nm]?



    I am considering getting an XC70. Some 2003 XC70 [from Aug 2003 on?]
    and the 2004 models have the 2.5L motor, B5254T2, [154kw, 320nm].
    Any comments about these motors would be helpful. What is the
    significance of the T3 changing to a T2??



    Thanks,



    Jim Kelly



    | The numbers tells you alot about the engine. B for Benzin /
    Gasoline, 5 = 5
    | cylinders, 25 = 2,5 lit. , 4 = valves per cylinder. T2 = Low
    pressure turbo
    | gives you B5254T2
    |
    | How does it differ from the older B5344T3 [147kw, 285nm]?
    | Do you mean B5234T3? That should give you a 5 cylinder 2,3 L
    20valve head
    | and high pressure turbo. Here in norway it gives you a output of
    230HP later
    | model 250 HP.
    |
    |
    message
    | | > Some 2003 XC70 [from Aug 2003 on?] and the 2004 models have
    | > the 2.5L motor, B5254T2, [154kw, 320nm].
    | >
    | > Any comments about this motor?
    | > How does it differ from the older B5344T3 [147kw, 285nm]?
    | >
    | > Thanks,
    | >
    | > Jim Kelly.
    | >
    |
    |
     
    Jim Kelly, Jan 25, 2004
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  7. Jim Kelly

    Jim Kelly Guest

    The new models with the bigger more powerful low pressure turbo
    motors have been shipping for over six months now but I have seen no
    comments here about how the new motor differs from the old
    mechanically, etc. The increase in torque is especially
    considerable. Can we expect the same reliability, fuel consumption,
    etc?

    2003 2.4L, B5244T3 [147kw, 285nm]

    2004 2.5L, B5254T2, [154kw, 320nm]

    Also,what is the significance of the T3 changing to a T2?? I am
    always wary of model number changes in this world of incesant cost
    cutting, but especially so when the numbers get smaller! New is not
    always better unfortunately.

    I am considering buying a new or near new XC70 and trying to gauge
    how much extra it is reasonable to pay for the new motor with it's
    extra power. (It seems that it is worth shelling out more for the
    Haldex AWD that accompanies it, too). I have presumed that the
    gearbox remains the same.

    Any comments about these motors would be helpful, especially from
    folks familiar with both.

    Thanks,

    Jim Kelly.
     
    Jim Kelly, Jan 31, 2004
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  8. Jim Kelly

    Jim Kelly Guest

    To kick this discussion along I have found the USA specs for the
    2.5L:
    Horsepower 208 @ 5000 rpm
    Torque (lb-ft) 236 @ 1500-4500 rpm

    message | The new models with the bigger more powerful low pressure turbo
    | motors have been shipping for over six months now but I have seen
    no
    | comments here about how the new motor differs from the old
    | mechanically, etc. The increase in torque is especially
    | considerable. Can we expect the same reliability, fuel
    consumption,
    | etc?
    |
    | 2003 2.4L, B5244T3 [147kw, 285nm]
    |
    | 2004 2.5L, B5254T2, [154kw, 320nm]
    |
    | Also,what is the significance of the T3 changing to a T2?? I am
    | always wary of model number changes in this world of incesant cost
    | cutting, but especially so when the numbers get smaller! New is
    not
    | always better unfortunately.
    |
    | I am considering buying a new or near new XC70 and trying to gauge
    | how much extra it is reasonable to pay for the new motor with it's
    | extra power. (It seems that it is worth shelling out more for the
    | Haldex AWD that accompanies it, too). I have presumed that the
    | gearbox remains the same.
    |
    | Any comments about these motors would be helpful, especially from
    | folks familiar with both.
    |
    | Thanks,
    |
    | Jim Kelly.
    |
     
    Jim Kelly, Jan 31, 2004
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  9. Jim Kelly

    Mike F Guest

    From what I've heard the engines are basically the same inside (aside
    from the bigger pistons), there's been a few modifications to make the
    block a little stiffer to make the engine smoother.

    Don't worry too much about the number after the "T" - that just
    designates a different state of tune. First there'd be the B5244T, then
    they'd change the tune - maybe for tax reasons, maybe for a more sporty
    model, then they'd call this version the B5244T2.

    --
    Mike F.
    Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont.

    NOTE: new address!!
    Replace tt with t (twice!) and remove parentheses to email me directly.
    (But I check the newsgroup more often than this email address.)
     
    Mike F, Feb 2, 2004
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