240 DL overheats badly

Discussion in 'Volvo 240' started by mot12345, Jan 16, 2005.

  1. mot12345

    mot12345 Guest

    My 1980 240 DL overheats badly. Even in cool weather the needle begins
    touching the read area when I drive over 55 mph. I have done a lot of
    testing and some part swapping, but no success. Below are the tests I
    have done.

    Tests done:

    - WATER PUMP tested O.K.: to test, I took thermostat cover off, took
    the thermostat out, and cranked the engine, which produce a good
    squirting.

    - FLOW INSIDE THE ENGINE block O.K.: the above test should have prooven
    that there is no obstruction in the water channels of the engine block.

    - RADIATOR flushed and cleaned and tested O.K. (pressuring water into
    any of the connectors will produce a good squirting of water out of all
    other connectors; also, after driving, the radiator is evenly hot,
    though cooler at the bottom, which should be normal)

    - HOSES o.k.; top hose off of thermostat is quite hot, lower hose
    feeding water pump is somewhat cooler

    - FAN o.k.; creates good strong back flow

    - THERMOSTAT is new
    (also did an independent "thermostat test" in which I removed the
    thermostat altogether, so that the flow (where the thermostat normally
    sits) is wide open -- this had NO effect; still overheating)

    - RADIATOR CAP is tight; system is holding pressure O.K.

    - Exhaust is dry and clean, no smoke or steam.


    Can anyone suggest any other conceivable cause of the overheating, and
    how to test for it?
    Thanks for your help and advice.

    WOlfgang
    Santa Barbara
     
    mot12345, Jan 16, 2005
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    Dex Guest

    Hi,
    Is the car actually venting steam from the system ?

    The gauge has a voltage regulator which can stop functioning and the
    gauge tends to read peak temperature rather than average temperature.
    Therefore it could be the gauge, but the radiator also becomes clogged up
    with debris after 20 years of service and I had mine replaced on a 1981 240
    Volvo.

    cheers,
    Paul
     
    Dex, Jan 16, 2005
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  3. Since it does it at 55 mph, rather than at idle, we can assume it is more
    likely a water problem rather than air flow. My prime suspect is the
    radiator, especially if the coolant has been formulated with tap water
    rather than distilled water. Flushes have never helped me in those
    situations (and I used tap water in several cars before I learned), the
    radiator had to be "rodded" at the least, or (if it is in bad shape) recored
    or replaced. If the car has an auto tranny, most rad shops will recommend
    replacement rather than recoring because the transmission coolant loop is
    likely to fail soon afterward with bad consequences. Also if the tanks are
    plastic rather than metal there is no point in nursing it any longer.

    That said, ensure there isn't a blockage of the air flow anyway. Some people
    have had a build-up of dead bugs and dirt nearly block the radiator fins
    and/or A/C condensor fins. A strong spray of water from a hose, spraying
    from the back to the front, has worked wonders for them.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Jan 16, 2005
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    Glenn Klein Guest

    Is the car actually overheating?
    if not check the wire coming off the sensor is the insulation cracked &
    brittle & the bare wire touching any metal close by?
    is the temperature sender any good ?
    If your local repair shop is not able to help you diagnose & repair then
    you should try the dealer for a diagnose & possible repair
    Glenn
    Volvo technician
    ASE Certified

    --
    "*-344-*Never Forgotten"
    Is for the New York City Firemen who lost their lives on September 11,2001.
    The official count is 343, but there was also a volunteer who lost his life
    aiding in the initial rescue efforts. And I will never forget them as
    long as I live,
    nor should any American.
    "Mow Green"
     
    Glenn Klein, Jan 16, 2005
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  5. Sounds like a false positive. Probably the voltage regulator. The
    gauges run on a reduced voltage somewhere around 5 volts. If the
    voltage regulator is bad, the gauges will read around twice what they
    should. The fuel gauge may be affected also, I am not sure.
     
    Stephen Henning, Jan 16, 2005
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  6. Thanks for help

    It works

    after 2:30 the radio ask for the code

    greetings Leo
     
    Leo v. Ruyven, Jan 17, 2005
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