240 heater valve replacement

Discussion in 'Volvo 240' started by jch, Dec 1, 2005.

  1. jch

    jch Guest

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    Hello All,

    Finally managed to get the heating system back together in my 1981
    vintage 245 wagon. I had to replace the fan motor, heater core, and
    control valve. After FCP supplied the correct valve kit (i received the
    wrong one first), i installed it, replaced the heater, and refilled the
    system with glycol. BIG SURPRISE !! The valve leaked badly, and i
    could not even restart the engine. To solve the problem i put in a VW
    Golf/Rabbit heater valve with a modified actuating arm (much shorter).
    The heating system is back together, no leaks (yet), and the heater runs
    nice and hot Now i can reassemble the center console and dash.

    Why a VW valve ? It costs _much_ less than the ScanTech product, and is
    probably not as leak prone. You can see the retrofit photos at
    <http://contrex-consulting.ca/245dl_1981_restoration.html>, Section
    2.2.3. By the way, the old style Volvo valve is _not_ repairable. The
    rubber membrane at the top develops pin holes, and it is impossible to
    replace it, or seal it. I tried very hard, but to no avail.

    / jch
     
    jch, Dec 1, 2005
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  2. jch

    brackenburn Guest

    Hi John,

    Your report on your handiwork, available at the website you supplied:

    http://contrex-consulting.ca/245dl_1981_restoration.html

    is absolutely amazing. I wonder if other NG readers missed it, failing to
    go to the website.......... The subject line of your post doesn't do it
    justice.
    You've done a tremendous amount of work, but what is perhaps more impressive
    is the intimate detailed manner in which you recordrd it. I learned a lot!
    May be in the year 2017 our '93 245 will be in need of some these
    repairs...............

    Well done John!
    Andy I.




    | _____
    | Hello All,
    |
    | Finally managed to get the heating system back together in my 1981
    | vintage 245 wagon. I had to replace the fan motor, heater core, and
    | control valve. After FCP supplied the correct valve kit (i received the
    | wrong one first), i installed it, replaced the heater, and refilled the
    | system with glycol. BIG SURPRISE !! The valve leaked badly, and i
    | could not even restart the engine. To solve the problem i put in a VW
    | Golf/Rabbit heater valve with a modified actuating arm (much shorter).
    | The heating system is back together, no leaks (yet), and the heater runs
    | nice and hot Now i can reassemble the center console and dash.
    |
    | Why a VW valve ? It costs _much_ less than the ScanTech product, and is
    | probably not as leak prone. You can see the retrofit photos at
    | <http://contrex-consulting.ca/245dl_1981_restoration.html>, Section
    | 2.2.3. By the way, the old style Volvo valve is _not_ repairable. The
    | rubber membrane at the top develops pin holes, and it is impossible to
    | replace it, or seal it. I tried very hard, but to no avail.
    |
    | / jch
    |
     
    brackenburn, Dec 2, 2005
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  3. jch

    jch Guest

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    Andy,

    Thanks for your kind comments. At least a couple of people have looked
    at the web pages judging from my access log on the server (OpenBSD 3.6,
    free, stable, secure, and available on CD from Calgary, AB).

    The issue of a heater valve replacement is, in fact, significant. A
    leaking valve _must_ be replaced, especially when it is located in the
    passenger compartment of the vehicle. You could plug off the heater
    hoses, and have no heat at all, or install a tube instead of a valve,
    and have full heat all the times. Neither "solution" is acceptable.
    One really needs a proper valve that fits, and does _not_ leak!

    I made the notes and photos (now that i have a small digital camera) for
    my own use. It helps to record what i did, so that i remember for the
    next time. The HTML file is easy to write, and makes a good "notebook".
    Plus, if someone else can benefit from my experience, so much the better.

    When i refurbished the front struts, and the in-tank fuel pump i did not
    yet have the digital camera. It would have been nice to have photos of
    those repairs as well. I am not finished yet. Perhaps by spring time
    the car will be ready so that i can get the plates plus insurance for
    it. This wagon is for my wife. By the way, i noticed that you have a
    shaw.ca user ID. You can reach me off-line at
    c..o..n..t..r..e..x..AT..s..h..a..w...c..a. I am in BC, close to Victoria.

    / John
     
    jch, Dec 8, 2005
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    Randy G. Guest


    I too have benefitted from John's experience and documentation. There
    really is a lot of that sort of thing out there- folks who start some
    hobby or some process, document it, and post it on the net. I have
    done a few myself, although not Volvo related. It is amazing at the
    reach such efforts can have. I am in California and I got a letter
    from a fellow in England thanking me for one of my how-to sites,
    telling me how much effort and trouble it saved him. Moveable type,
    television, and the Internet... amazing stuff all.

    And, John- I can't primise when, or even "if," as I have other
    prijects going, but if I can, when I do my struts I will try to take a
    lot of pics and send them off to you. In the meantime, don't turn down
    any other offers for the same. BTW- the "other project" at the moment
    is the used 30 foot (9.25 meters) motorhome we brought home last
    night!!! :)

    I never thought I would own a vehicle with a bathroom, kitchen, couch,
    and queen size bed in it!!!!! ;-)


    __ __
    Randy & \ \/ /alerie's
    \__/olvos
    '90 245 Estate - '93 965 Estate
    "Shelby" & "Kate"
     
    Randy G., Dec 9, 2005
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