240 wagon '93:electrical problems

Discussion in 'Volvo 240' started by Andrea1717, Dec 16, 2007.

  1. Andrea1717

    Andrea1717 Guest

    Two days ago, during a trip, my Volvo's engine
    suddenly cut out...dead. I saw the indicator of rev./second counter goes
    down and so I thought "is an electrical problem"....I tried to start the
    engine but nothing. The day after the engine started normally but now I want
    to solve the problem because I don't like this. I know that the informations
    are few...thanks anyway.
    Greatings from Italy, Andrea.
     
    Andrea1717, Dec 16, 2007
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  2. Andrea1717

    Perry Noid Guest

    many possible causes... on my '89 240, there's a plug-in fuse in the engine
    compartment, up against the top of the wheelwell and behind the battery...
    it seems to be the main fuse for the computer. A couple years ago, I had
    some problems with intermittant operation, and found that the socket the
    fuse plugs into had cracked or broken apart, and the fuse wasn't making good
    contact. Fixing that solved my problems, and it might be a good thing to
    check on your car....
     
    Perry Noid, Dec 16, 2007
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  3. Andrea1717

    TKM Guest

    Check all fuses for contact corrosion. My 240 went dead from time-to-time
    and various circuits worked intermittently. Finally, I just replaced all of
    the fuses in the car -- no more problems.

    TKM
     
    TKM, Dec 16, 2007
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  4. Andrea1717

    jch Guest

    _____
    What did the on-board computer LED readout report?

    I agree with the two responses already given. Some corrections and
    additional suggestions:
    o Remove battery terminals, clean, reconnect.
    o Remove _all_ fuses, clean terminals, put in _all_new_ fuses
    o Spade fuse by ignition coil is for fuel delivery system, not
    computer module. Remove fuse, check fuse body, clean contacts with very
    thin file, put in new fuse. The OEM location on the steel bracket by
    the headlight relay is a very poor choice. Too much water gets in. I
    relocated this fuse holder in a 1984 and 1989 240 onto the cage that
    holds the ignition coil.

    Hope this helps.
     
    jch, Dec 16, 2007
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  5. Andrea1717

    Andy Guest

    Hi Andrea,

    When you change all the fuses in the main fusebox, as already recommended,
    try to find fuses with copper or brass ends. Volvo in my experience doesn't
    stock them, but VW suppliers do.
    Also, before installing the new fuses, clean the fuse holders with fine
    sandpaper, then coat them with DIELECTRIC grease. This procedure will
    reduce the chances of corrosion occurring. Corrosion is the usual
    suspect.............

    Good Luck
    Andy I. ('93 240 Classic Wagon)


    : Andrea1717 wrote:
    : > suddenly cut out...dead. I saw the indicator of rev./second counter goes
    : > down and so I thought "is an electrical problem"....I tried to start the
    : > engine but nothing. The day after the engine started normally but now I
    want
    : > to solve the problem because I don't like this.
    : _____
    : What did the on-board computer LED readout report?
    :
    : I agree with the two responses already given. Some corrections and
    : additional suggestions:
    : o Remove battery terminals, clean, reconnect.
    : o Remove _all_ fuses, clean terminals, put in _all_new_ fuses
    : o Spade fuse by ignition coil is for fuel delivery system, not
    : computer module. Remove fuse, check fuse body, clean contacts with very
    : thin file, put in new fuse. The OEM location on the steel bracket by
    : the headlight relay is a very poor choice. Too much water gets in. I
    : relocated this fuse holder in a 1984 and 1989 240 onto the cage that
    : holds the ignition coil.
    :
    : Hope this helps.
    :
    : --
    : Regards / JCH
     
    Andy, Dec 17, 2007
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  6. Andrea1717

    Andrea1717 Guest

    Thanks for the informations....I solved the problem:
    was a false contact in the hight tension coil....well I'm happy but during
    next days I'm going to clean all the fuses contact and the fast
    connections.
    Greatings from Italy, Andrea.
     
    Andrea1717, Dec 17, 2007
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  7. Andrea1717

    jch Guest

    _____
    That makes sense. The fuel delivery system relies on the presence of a
    good pulse signal from the coil. It activates the tachimetric fuel pump
    relay. No pulses from coil = no fuel = no start or run.
     
    jch, Dec 17, 2007
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  8. Andrea1717

    c.fiedler Guest

    I have had more 240s than I can remember as our cars, kids' cars, etc.
    I have always replaced ALL ceramic fuses with Buss glass fuses and
    never had a problem afterwards. They have (I think) stainless contacts
    and are readily available in the correct amperage at most auto parts
    stores.

    Chuck Fiedler
    Nothing but Volvo since 1974
     
    c.fiedler, Dec 18, 2007
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  9. Andrea1717

    John Horner Guest

    Unfortunately Buss seems to have discontinued those :(.
     
    John Horner, Dec 25, 2007
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  10. Andrea1717

    c.fiedler Guest

    In our modern mass consumption society, what isn't "in vogue" probably
    isn't made any more. Might I suggest you check with IPD and see if
    they have anything. My 93 240 is already so equipped (with reserves)
    and my 97 850 has spade fuses so I really don't know anymore but I
    *think* if anyone has it, it would be IPD (www.ipdusa.com).

    Chuck Fiedler
    Nothing but Volvo since 1974
     
    c.fiedler, Dec 26, 2007
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  11. Andrea1717

    John Horner Guest

    IPD stopped selling them several years ago when Buss stopped making
    them. I simply use the traditional ceramic ones and replace them once
    every five years or so. No big deal.
     
    John Horner, Dec 30, 2007
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