245 ac how difficult?

Discussion in 'Volvo 240' started by Lance Rieck, Jul 30, 2003.

  1. Lance Rieck

    Lance Rieck Guest

    Hello
    I am proud owner of new/used '88 240 Wagon. The ac compressor is
    missing according to a mechanic. I don't know too much about cars in
    general but I'm picking up on several ideas. Since I need to buy a
    compressor anyway, should I consider converting to R134? How much of
    the process can I do myself, considering I have no car mechanical
    background (well I know what a wrench is)? Do I have to use a Volvo
    kit for conversion or can JC Whitney or someother outfit get me the
    parts I need. Where would I find instructions to just repair with old
    R12 system? I bought the car pretty cheap and was hoping not to spend
    thousands of $$ on adding AC but it sure would be handy for those hot
    New York City summer nights. I love the vehicle other than that, and
    could get by but it's pushing it when I have my baby in the car. I am
    a fairly able guy when it comes to troubleshooting but basically want
    to see if doing part of the job myself is realistic -- will it save me
    money in the long run. I appreciate all comments even suggestions for
    mechs. in NYC/Brooklyn area. Thanks for your time.
     
    Lance Rieck, Jul 30, 2003
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    Mike F Guest

    If the compressor is missing, then the brackets that bolt to the
    compressor are also missing. And who knows what else is also been
    removed. Judging from your questions, I would say that you probably
    don't have enough experience to figure this out yourself. If you want
    to try, your best bet will be finding a dead car with a complete A/C to
    use as a donor and transfer the parts over. I would definitely start
    with a new compressor and convert to 134a, simply because it will cost
    you a fortune to do trial and error with R12.
     
    Mike F, Jul 30, 2003
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  3. Lance Rieck

    Lance Rieck Guest

    I appreciate the info. There is also a R12 substitute that is cheaper
    than Freon but cools better than it as well. I think it is twice the
    price of 134, though. I have my Haynes manual and I agree is probably
    over my head. I think that it would also be good for a retrofit with
    electric cooler fan and switch that were put on later 240's. Any
    ideas on what a fair price might be if I find parts myself, say on
    ebay??
     
    Lance Rieck, Jul 31, 2003
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    Alex Zepeda Guest

    There are lots of alternatives to R12 and R134a (including for a while
    R134). I summarized what I knew here:

    http://www.brickboard.com/RWD/index.htm?id=664308

    I'm selling a pusher fan + brackets for $40. It's far from a bolt in kit,
    and I'm not even sure how well it works (it seems to spin fine and such)
    but it'll come with a reasonable warranty.

    I've never looked for one on eBay, but I'd say anywhere from $20-$50 would
    be a reasonable price (it's all dependent on what you're willing to pay).
    Of course new, the fans would be super expensive. What may be worthwhile
    is trying to find a fan from another car in a junkyard and rig it up to
    fit your Volvo. The 700s had much bigger pusher fans apparently, but I
    don't know how well they'd fit in a 240.

    - alex

    '85 244 Turbo
    '84 245 Turbo
     
    Alex Zepeda, Jul 31, 2003
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    James Sweet Guest

    Those have all sorts of disadvantages though, some are highly flammable,
    some decompose over time, others are more prone to leakage, etc. The
    compressor is missing so the lines are open, so at the very least he'll need
    a new compressor, new reciever/dryer, new O rings, oil, etc, which is most
    of the parts that need to be replaced to do a proper R134a conversion, and
    R134 is readily available, won't void any warranties, and AC shops all over
    will still work on it. I did the conversion on my car myself and it went
    smoothly, I highly recommend it.
     
    James Sweet, Aug 2, 2003
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