740 clutch control arm problem

Discussion in 'Volvo 740' started by Roy Bolton, Sep 5, 2005.

  1. Roy Bolton

    Roy Bolton Guest

    Hi,
    Anyone come across this and how did you fix it. Driving along and you push
    the clutch in. Clutch pedal goes all the way to the floor and doesn't come
    up again. You pull over and stop. On looking at the clutch slave cylinder
    and clutch release arm you find that the clutch slave cylinder piston has
    pushed it's way through the release arm and the whole slave assembly has
    fallen to pieces. This is an inherent fault with 88 740s! Any solutions to
    fixing i9t without replacing the whole release arm assembly?
    Thanks - Roy
     
    Roy Bolton, Sep 5, 2005
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  2. Make sure that the clutch control arm has not come adrift from it's pivot
    point.

    All the best, Peter.

    700/900/90 Register Keeper,
    Volvo Owners Club (UK).
     
    Peter K L Milnes, Sep 6, 2005
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  3. Roy Bolton

    James Sweet Guest

    The only problem I've had with that is a worn assembly that allowed the
    piston to push completely out of the bore. When you say it's pushed through,
    do you mean the metal of the release arm has actually broken? If that's the
    case you'll have to replace it.
     
    James Sweet, Sep 6, 2005
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  4. Roy Bolton

    Roy Bolton Guest

    No, what I mean is that the end of the piston has pushed through the hole in
    the arm where there should be a plastic bush that holds the end of the slave
    cylinder piston against the release arm. The arm is not broken in any way.
    All that is needed is some way of holding the end of the piston in place.
    Think of it as a ball joint type assembly where there should be a socket on
    the end of the release arm but the socket has worn, fallen off and the end
    of the piston has pushed through the hole where the socket connects to. -
    Roy
     
    Roy Bolton, Sep 6, 2005
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  5. Roy Bolton

    James Sweet Guest


    Perhaps I'm missing something, but it seems the obvious solution here is to
    get a new bushing, the dealer should be able to order it.
     
    James Sweet, Sep 7, 2005
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  6. Roy Bolton

    Mike F Guest

    There isn't a bushing. The rod coming out of the slave cylinder seems
    to have worn a hole big enough so it goes right through the release
    arm. Sounds like it's time for a new arm (which would require
    transmission removal) or someone to patch up the existing arm (custom
    work which may end up costing the same as arm replacement).

    --
    Mike F.
    Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont.

    Replace tt with t (twice!) and remove parentheses to email me directly.
    (But I check the newsgroup more often than this email address.)
     
    Mike F, Sep 7, 2005
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  7. Roy Bolton

    Ken Phillips Guest

    Would a suitably thick and large enough diameter washer properly fixed
    onto the end of the actuator plunger not resolve this? Reading the posts
    below, it sounds like you need to investigate how the piston popped
    out, it should be securely held in place by a substantial internal
    circlip, you also should carefully clean the actuator piston, and it's
    bore, there is a long spring in there also which causes the actuator to
    maintain a very light pressure against the clutch release arm, after
    reassembly, fit the proper internal circlip, then refill and bleed the
    hydraulic circuit, I've had one of these badly and suddenly leak,
    giving a whole meaning to gear changing.
    This fix above won't look very neat, but, it should get you mobile
    again, and it's not like you drive around looking under the car all day:)

    Best wishes from blighty,

    Ken Phillips
     
    Ken Phillips, Sep 7, 2005
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  8. Roy Bolton

    Roy Bolton Guest

    The piston isn't held with anything except the pressure of the release arm
    against the end of the piston. the end of the piston sits in a cup normally
    which sits in the hole at the end of the release arm, this is what has worn
    through and this is what needs replacing. it's an extremely bad fault and
    one that needs watching out for. If your sat at the lights with the engine
    in gear and this fault happens, then the car is suddenly going to lurch
    forward and it's bye bye to some pedestrian. Surprised it hasn't been the
    subject of a service recall... be warned! The part is not, as far as I know
    available from volvo, there is a fix and it does not involve replacing the
    release arm. - Roy
     
    Roy Bolton, Sep 8, 2005
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