740 spark plug replacement

Discussion in 'Volvo 740' started by Mungo \two sheds\ Toadfoot, Sep 28, 2005.

  1. It might be common knowledge but I thought I'd share anyway...

    I bought some new Bosch spark plugs for my 1989 2.3l 740 and three of the
    old plugs came out with hardly a problem, the fourth though, in number three
    cylinder, was tighter than a tight thing which had been tightened by
    Mr.Universe's big brother.

    I was able to undo it only about half a turn, then tighten it, then loosen
    it, then tighten it..... I sprayed penetrating oil on it several times but
    still only got it loosened about one whole turn in all before it locked
    solid again. Becoming more and more worried about stripping the thread I
    consulted the source of all knowledge - the internet - and found that
    running the engine for just a couple of minutes should expand the
    alumin(i)um head sufficently to give slightly more space for the plug to be
    unscrewed, and.....it worked!!

    There are few occasions in life when one is truly happy but this was one of
    them. I've taken many engines apart in the past so I knew what would have
    been involved if the plug thread had stripped.

    Si
     
    Mungo \two sheds\ Toadfoot, Sep 28, 2005
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    Clay Guest

    Good job.
    I'd have probably stripped it or broke it off before thinking about
    checking on line. ('cause I know *lots* about motors and stuff... I
    think to myself.)
    Don't forget the anti-seize on the new plugs.

    A funny story:
    My neighbor bought a new model year Honda back in the '80's. He went to
    change the oil and couldn't get the filter off. He ended up shreading
    the canister all the way down to the flange so there was nothing left to
    grab and turn.
    He asked me to bring my welder over and weld something on the flange so
    he could turn it. After I welded a little bar on it, it spun off by
    hand... the heat from welding had softened the gasket.
    BTW... the filter he bought to replace it was the wrong one and it seems
    the correct filter was a new design and back ordered from Japan. He
    waited a week or two before he got the replacement.
     
    Clay, Sep 28, 2005
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    Randy G. Guest

    It's another good reason not to use air tools to remove or replace
    spark plugs!


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    Randy & \ \/ /alerie's
    \__/olvos
    '90 245 Estate - '93 965 Estate
    "Shelby" & "Kate"
     
    Randy G., Sep 28, 2005
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  4. Another trick for the mental toolbox. Thanks! (And maybe more thanks down
    the road when I need to use this.)

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Sep 29, 2005
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  5. I have had many cars with aluminium head and never had success with bosch
    plugs .I use anti seize because of my experience with bosch .I prefer NGK
    plugs because of this very reason .As this is over many cars and millions of
    miles it pays .Motor craft were good till they stopped making them in Japan
    ..
     
    John Robertson, Oct 1, 2005
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    Randy G. Guest

    ALWAYS use anti-seize when plugs go into an alloy head.

    Your plug problem may have been caused by either the Bosch plugs beign
    just a little longer than othre brands in th threads, or they might
    have run just a bit cooler (or both) causing excessive carbon build up
    making them difficult to get out....?

    I see commercials for "Denso" spark plugs. I am assuming that this is
    the renamed "Nippon Denso" company...? I used their ND-U plugs for
    years in my motorcycle and they ran great! I see the commercial for
    the Iridium plugs with teh U groove side electrode. Tempting, indeed!



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    Randy & \ \/ /alerie's
    \__/olvos
    '90 245 Estate - '93 965 Estate
    "Shelby" & "Kate"
     
    Randy G., Oct 1, 2005
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    James Sweet Guest


    There's probably cases where this is wrong, but I've never had anything
    great to say about any of the fancy gimmicky spark plugs. I tried Bosch
    Platinum plugs a couple times, in one car the electrodes wore down
    surprisingly fast and another ran like absolute crap under boost and took
    forever to track down, now I always use plain old NGK plugs and have never
    had any problems at all with them.
     
    James Sweet, Oct 1, 2005
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    Randy G. Guest

    That may be the case. I know that the ND U groove made a big
    difference in the way the bike ran, and like you, I had very bad
    results in the same vehicle with the Bosch platinum. This was in a
    vehicle with points and standard kettering ignition (12 v system,
    single set of points, with two 6 v. coils).

    I think the New Denso has an exposed center electrode as opposed the
    the "hidden" electrode on the Bosch plugs.



    __ __
    Randy & \ \/ /alerie's
    \__/olvos
    '90 245 Estate - '93 965 Estate
    "Shelby" & "Kate"
     
    Randy G., Oct 1, 2005
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  9. That was my experience using Bosch platinums in the 765T. Within a year
    there were only holes where the center electrodes were and the engine was
    misfiring under load. Some say other brands don't do that but I'm happy with
    regular NGKs.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Oct 1, 2005
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  10. I lied ,the other day I saw Bosch plugs 4 four AU $37.50 at super cheap
    here in Melbourne .They had 4 earths and a small centre pointed in such a
    way that they should maintain their gap for a long time ,100.000 KLMS I was
    told .I used such plugs on an Alfa I once had they made a huge difference
    ..so I will see .By the way number one plug was a fair cow to get in right so
    they havent changed their ways ,they still jamup in the treads .
     
    John Robertson, Oct 28, 2005
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  11. Mungo \two sheds\ Toadfoot

    Volvo Guest

    Correction: 80 km/h - not 8 km/h of course
     
    Volvo, Oct 28, 2005
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