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Discussion in 'Volvo 760' started by 57Ford, Jul 7, 2005.

  1. 57Ford

    57Ford Guest

    I have a problem with my `89 760 turbo,can any one tell me why it will not
    run more than about 1800 rpms? The turbo seems to be working fine, we
    replaced the fuel filter,& the TBS. At lower speeds it runs great. If you
    are driving on flat land, you can get your speed up, but when come to a
    hill it will not speed up. It does not make any noises, it just cuts out &
    won`t go any faster. It has 191,000 miles on it.
     
    57Ford, Jul 7, 2005
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  2. My first thought is a hole in one of the rubber ducts between the turbo and
    the throttle body. Even a hole that your finger fits tightly in will release
    a lot of air when the turbo spins up (whether or not the throttle is open
    far enough to send boost to the manifold), and that air has already been
    measured by the AMM so enough fuel is being injected to use it. The result
    is that the mixture is way too rich when the turbo spins. Often it creates a
    weird "foldback" sort of response, where everything goes fine even at full
    throttle until the engine should start generating power - then the engine
    stumbles right down to an idle. If you back off completely on the throttle
    it will soon regain its balance until you ask it to put out power again.

    Feel along each of those large hoses at each side of the intercooler (you
    will probably want to use a paper towel or rag to keep the goo off your
    fingers) or remove each hose for a visual inspection. The hole will usually
    be surrounded by a soft spot. The hoses are expensive - about $50 to $100
    S - but you would be wise to replace all of them if you find a hole. I did
    mine one at a time, but they all failed within less than a 2 year span. I
    didn't replace that short blue silicone piece on the turbo, though. In the
    meantime it is possible to patch the hose with a cut up aluminum can and
    duct tape, provided the hole isn't in a sharp bend.

    You will probably also find a hole dissolved through the underside of the
    turbo intake duct where it joins the turbo. That duct isn't pressurized, so
    it doesn't cause the radical symptoms of the others. Good thing, too - I
    paid $150 US for a replacement about five years ago. I understand there are
    aftermarket sources with more reasonable prices.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Jul 7, 2005
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  3. 57Ford

    James Sweet Guest

    Do you get heavy smoke from the exhaust when it bogs down?
     
    James Sweet, Jul 8, 2005
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  4. 57Ford

    57Ford Guest

    No, it doesn`t smoke any time. Also I checked the turbo hoses & didn`t find
    any holes or soft spots.
     
    57Ford, Jul 8, 2005
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  5. 57Ford

    James Sweet Guest

    Now I forget exactly what the symptoms are, is the turbo developing any
    boost at all? IE is the guage going into the yellow?
     
    James Sweet, Jul 9, 2005
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  6. The original text: "I have a problem with my `89 760 turbo,can any one tell
    me why it will not run more than about 1800 rpms? The turbo seems to be
    working fine, we replaced the fuel filter,& the TBS. At lower speeds it runs
    great. If you are driving on flat land, you can get your speed up, but when
    come to a hill it will not speed up. It does not make any noises, it just
    cuts out & won`t go any faster. It has 191,000 miles on it."

    It was the 1800 rpm that got my attention because that is the region where
    the symptoms of bad turbo hoses appear. The turbo hoses affect the mixture
    even if the guage never goes into boost - boost only has to appear in the
    hoses. There is some relation to the throttle setting because more throttle
    means more gasses driving the turbo. In the end, trying to exceed about 40
    mph on level ground with a hole in a turbo hose (except the inlet hose) is a
    lost cause - Lord knows I've tried! Come to think of it, the hose on the
    non-manifold side of the idle air control valve will do that. I replaced
    both those on our car when the one on the manifold side cracked. Sorry if I
    sound like a broken record on this, but the symptoms sound so much like a
    big leak in the induction system between the turbo and the throttle body
    it's hard to focus elsewhere.

    It would also be a good clue to know when this happened - one day it started
    okay and wouldn't drive away, or it suddenly did that when using the turbo
    or when just driving.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Jul 9, 2005
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  7. 57Ford

    James Sweet Guest


    Well first thing to check is that the turbo isn't siezed, but if the guage
    is going into the yellow then it's not. Next, I would suspect the timing
    belt has jumped a tooth, it's really amazing how much of an affect this will
    make on the engine, my dad's 240T did it once and suddenly the car would
    barely go 5 mph, then after the literally 10 seconds or so it took to
    develop boost it would suddenly spin the tires and take off like a rocket.
     
    James Sweet, Jul 9, 2005
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  8. A blocked fuel filter will give the same results, either main one or in-tank
    pump pick-up filter.


    All the best, Peter.

    700/900/90 Register Keeper,
    Volvo Owners Club (UK).
     
    Peter K L Milnes, Jul 9, 2005
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  9. 57Ford

    57Ford Guest

    The turbo gauge shows that its working.I will check the timing, but
    everything works fine at lower speeds. I put a new fuel filter (main) on &
    a new fuel pressure regulator, I don`t know what the fuel pressure is, but
    when the line is loosend, it has a strong spray. Could it be an electrical
    problem? Thanks for all the help, I really need it!
     
    57Ford, Jul 10, 2005
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