850 Air Pump – Check Engine Light

Discussion in 'Volvo 850' started by polara, Feb 18, 2004.

  1. polara

    polara Guest

    CAR: 1997 850 GLT Wagon - 75000 miles

    PROBLEM:

    Air pump sounded like a fork stuck in garbage disposal at every cold
    start, is now not running at all. Check engine light is on.

    QUESTIONS:

    1. Is there any way to permanently disconnect or disable air pump
    without triggering check engine codes or other engine or ECU problems?
    I live in warm climate (Los Angeles) so air pump does very little good
    and repair is $$$.

    2. Is it true that "fuel trim" is disabled when check engine light is
    on? What happens if you keep driving like this?
     
    polara, Feb 18, 2004
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  2. polara

    Mike F Guest

    No. You would have to reprogram the ECU. The air pump reduces
    emissions during cold starts, and even in your climate your first start
    of the day will classify as a cold start.
    Whether fuel trim is disabled when the light is on depends on what fault
    turns the light on. In this case, fuel trim is not disabled. However
    with the light on for this fault, you would not know when you had
    another fault.

    If you fix it, make sure that you change the valve that closes off the
    air pump from the exhaust. This sticks open, and moisture from the
    exhaust collects in the air pump which is what kills it.

    --
    Mike F.
    Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont.

    NOTE: new address!!
    Replace tt with t (twice!) and remove parentheses to email me directly.
    (But I check the newsgroup more often than this email address.)
     
    Mike F, Feb 19, 2004
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  3. I was told by a dealer that if I just ignored the air pump problem
    that it would lead after some time to failure of the O2 sensors,
    and that failed O2 sensors would eventually ruin the catalytic
    converter. You probably don't want to go there.
     
    L David Matheny, Feb 19, 2004
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  4. polara

    polara Guest


    Mike -

    I thought the moisture comes from the poor design of the air pump
    mounting location in the wheel well area. So you're saying it's the
    valve sticking that causes the pump to fill with water and rust out? I
    think the whole air-pump system is a lot of expensive, difficult to
    access parts for very little benefit in return. So, below are the best
    prices I could find for the air pump job. The valve alone is an $86
    item. At the risk of sounding cheap, is there any way to tell if the
    valve is okay without replacing it? Thanks.

    Prices from www.fcpgroton.com

    New Air Pump 1996-1997 (Pierburg) $265.00
    Air Pump Check Valve (Anti Backfire Valve) Genuine Volvo $86.00
    Gasket for Air Pump Check Valve Genuine Volvo $2.10
    Clamp For Air pump check valve 1 req Genuine Volvo $1.75
    Clamp for Air pump check valve 2 req Genuine Volvo $1.35
    Air Pump Relay 1994-1997 Genuine Volvo $39.95

    Total (US)$397.55
     
    polara, Feb 20, 2004
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  5. I thought the air pump just blew air into the exhaust gases to help
    the cat warm up faster (a bit like blowing onto the embers of a fire).
    If the air pump tube is blocked up, then how would this lead to the
    failure of the O2 sensors?
     
    Conrad Edwards, Feb 21, 2004
    #5
  6. polara

    Mike F Guest

    The valve opens with vacuum. With no vacuum applied it should be closed
    tight. If you take the larger hose off the valve, then no exhaust
    should come out. If you then apply vacuum to the smaller hose, then
    exhaust should come out. However, I doubt that your valve is good,
    since the airpump is bad.

    --
    Mike F.
    Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont.

    NOTE: new address!!
    Replace tt with t (twice!) and remove parentheses to email me directly.
    (But I check the newsgroup more often than this email address.)
     
    Mike F, Feb 23, 2004
    #6
  7. polara

    Rod Gray Guest

    The "air pump" is actually a vacuum pump. A turbo has pressure on the
    intake, not vacuum. That is why you have a vacuum pump. It provides vacuum
    for the heater/AC and cruise controls. Call a junkyard. Should get one for
    less than $50.
     
    Rod Gray, Feb 24, 2004
    #7
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