850 engine oil switch?

Discussion in 'Volvo 850' started by stevek, Jul 5, 2006.

  1. stevek

    stevek Guest

    I have an 850 turbo with about 225000 miles which doesn't leak or use
    much oil. I've been using regular oil but my mechanic keeps telling me
    to switch to synthetic. I heard that switching in a hi mileage engine
    will cause leaks. Any advice?
     
    stevek, Jul 5, 2006
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    klh Guest

    hi-mileage
    a volvo at 225,000 miles with regular maintenance?
     
    klh, Jul 6, 2006
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  3. stevek

    John Horner Guest

    IMO synthetic oil is a very good idea with turbos. If you are worried
    about leaks, Valvoline markets a Synthetic MaxLife oil which is supposed
    to include seal conditioners to minimize leaks.

    John
     
    John Horner, Jul 6, 2006
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    Tim.. Guest

    Personnally, as long as you dont drive it very hard 100% or tow heavy loads
    in high ambient temps, and use a good spec mineral oil of the correct
    viscosity, changed at around 5k intervals, then I would NOT switch to
    Synthetic.

    The main advantage of synthetic is that it will withstand higher
    temperatures without carbonising- i.e in the turbo. As long as you cool off
    the turbo after driving on boost, mineral will be fine.

    You will prbably cause more problems such as leaks and wash any deposits
    into the sump which could block the pickup strainer.


    Tim..
     
    Tim.., Jul 6, 2006
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    Joerg Lorenz Guest

    I always wonder why oil changes are done so frequently in the US, even
    on European cars. I'm driving currently a new V70 D5 (185 hp) and
    before I had a V70 T5 (260hp). In Europe oil changes are done every
    20'000 to 30'000 km (13'000 to 20'000 miles) or after 24 months which
    ever comes first. But along with the engine oil the filter is always
    changed. Shorter intervals are only recommended in very sandy or dusty
    environments.

    The other thing is the frequent statement in this NG that the switch
    from regular mineral based engine oil to fully synthetic engine oil on
    high mileage cars is producing oil leakage. If that were the case the
    engine has *IMHO* a major structural defect. Molecule chains of fully
    synthetic oils remain much more stable which results "thicker" oil when
    hot. From the standpoint of physical properties of the oil qualities
    there is no reason not to switch to synthetic oil.

    Joerg
     
    Joerg Lorenz, Jul 6, 2006
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    john41 Guest

    Joerg wrote
    It's not just the USA where oil changes are recommended at 5k miles
    intervals. Many respected commentators here in the UK (e.g. The Daily
    Telegraph's motoring writer "Honest John" ) have long espoused ignoring
    the manufacturers' extended limits and changing the oil every 5k miles
    (or 6 monthly if sooner).
    A local garage that services Mitsubishi Colts for a driving school had
    horrendous camshaft problems when Mitsubishi extended the oil change
    interval from 6k to12k a few years ago. The driving school removed the
    problems when they reverted to 6k oil change intervals.

    I don't know how many miles your V70s have covered, but my 850 has
    managed 215k miles with no major component replacements, and has had
    the more frequent oil & filter changes.
    John Morris, Cambs UK
     
    john41, Jul 7, 2006
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    Joerg Lorenz Guest

    John, that is not my personal opinion. The manufacturer Volvo decided
    that it is appropriate for the European markets. So do other
    manufacturers like Daimler Benz, BMW and others.
    Before the V70 s I also drove several 850s. The last one was a 850 T5
    (225 hp). The colour and the consistency of the engine oil led to the
    conclusion to stick to the manufactureres advice/recommendations.

    Joerg
     
    Joerg Lorenz, Jul 7, 2006
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