'86 245DL Fuse Box Location / Wiper problem

Discussion in 'Volvo 240' started by pravinkpant, Jul 7, 2005.

  1. pravinkpant

    pravinkpant Guest

    Hi everyone,


    I just bought a 1986 245DL. When I got it, the wipers weren't able to
    park by themselves. Yesterday, they stopped working all together. The
    washer fluid, rear wiper and horn all work fine.

    I would like to check the wiper fuse but I cannot find the fuse box.
    There is a panel in the driver side footwell (left of hood release) but
    it's confusing because the label says, "Fuse box located in engine bay.
    See owners manual." Sorry if this is a dumb question, I have searched
    Google and Brickboard and can't find much.

    Thank you very much.
     
    pravinkpant, Jul 7, 2005
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  2. pravinkpant

    doc Guest


    Hello:

    I've owned a number of 240's and my first was a 76 242 DL. On that and
    all others the fuse panel was located at the driver side
    footwell--although there may have been a secondary fuse panel located
    in the engine compartment. I simply don't recall now. I can say there
    is no secondary fuse panel in the engine bay on my 93 24o wagon.

    Anyway, remove the fuse panel cover in the driver's side footwell.

    In the US and Canadian markets the wiper fuse is 16 amperes and is
    fuse #2 (second from the top.) This is clearly indicated on the label
    on the inside of the cover. The left side of the label indicates fuses
    and what they are for in French, right side is in English.

    The labeling may vary depending on your country of residence--but my
    guess if the location of the fuse will not, as that would make no
    sense.

    Note: while you have the fuse panel open it's a good idea to remove
    every fuse, clean all terminals with emery cloth of fine sandpaper
    and then "squeeze" then together gently to ensure the fuse will fit
    tightly. Late 70's and early 80's 240's were notorious where I lived
    for failure of the fuel injection system or erratic performance--which
    was nearly always a "loose" fuse (#6) for the FI and fuel pump.


    It's also not a bad idea to coat the terminals with a light bit of
    dielectric grease.

    I still remember an incident back in 1982 when I was on a remote
    section of I-5 in California. A woman was stranded with her fairly new
    240 and the Triple A mechanic was baffled. 5 minutes later she was on
    her way and the Triple A guy (pretty sharp tech) had learned something
    new about Volvos. He HAD checked the fuses and they looked good and
    "felt" tight but that one was not.

    Good Luck!

    Doc
     
    doc, Jul 8, 2005
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    brackenburn Guest

    Hi Doc,

    In addition to your excellent advice re cleaning the terminals and fuse
    contacts, "squeezing" the terminals, and coating with dielectric grease, I
    would like to add my 2ยข worth:

    To finally (hopefully?) end this troublesome corrosion problem, replace all
    of these ceramic fuses which have grey-colored metal contact ends with
    correct amp value types which have brass/copper ends. I found that my local
    Volvo dealer didn't stock them (shame!) but an outfit specialising in VW
    parts did (humiliating!).

    This should end the "galvanic action" between the dissimilar metals. ( At
    least......... that's my theeeeeeery.)

    Regarding the "fuse box located in the engine bay", perhaps this refers to
    the little box attached to the positive terminal of the battery, containing
    four "blade-type" fuses. I'm not sure if our '86 had this but our '93 does.

    Good Luck.
    Andy I.
     
    brackenburn, Jul 8, 2005
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  4. pravinkpant

    pravinkpant Guest

    Thank you all for your good advice. Despite the panel's vague
    information, the footwell panel does seem to be the main fuse box. The
    wiper motor fuse looks fine - I even replaced it with a new one, still
    no dice.

    The wiper motor seems to have a 4-wire harness attached to it. Oddly, a
    yellow wire is clipped. I noticed this was disconnected since I had the
    car (even when the wipers were working). I'm wondering if it was why my
    wipers wouldn't park.

    Anyway,
    I used a 12V test bulb (engine off, ignition key to power
    'accessories', wiper switch on) and attached the ground to the chassis
    and the red wire to the red wire to the wiper motor, and I got a
    light. Can I deduce from this that the motor is bad, since it doesn't
    function despite it receiving adequate power? Can a motor fail quickly
    with no sign? I hear nothing from it, it just stopped working one day.

    Also, is it worth pulling the motor apart to see if the magnet is
    broken? This seems to be a common 240 problem.

    Thank you all very much for your advice. This is my first 240 and this
    is definitely time looking at an electrical challenge... maybe these
    two things are related. :)

    Pravin
     
    pravinkpant, Jul 9, 2005
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    Mike F Guest

    Yes, yellow is for parking. There's probably a problem with the park
    contacts inside the motor, causing the fuse to blow, which is why the
    wire is snipped. Make sure the motor is grounded - the motor is mounted
    on rubber feet, there's just a thin metal contact wrapped around one of
    them for ground, while later motors had a separate, dedicated ground
    wire. Also, with the ignition and wipers on low speed, make sure the
    brown wire has power. And finally, a dead interval relay can cause the
    wipers not to work - to test you can join the black-white wire to the
    white wire (relay out) where they go into the relay. The relay is
    usually a black 6 pin relay hanging on the harness behind the dead
    pedal.

    --
    Mike F.
    Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont.

    Replace tt with t (twice!) and remove parentheses to email me directly.
    (But I check the newsgroup more often than this email address.)
     
    Mike F, Jul 12, 2005
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