88 240, no overdrive, not solenoid

Discussion in 'Volvo 240' started by Raymond Cruz, Nov 20, 2004.

  1. Raymond Cruz

    Raymond Cruz Guest

    A couple of weeks ago I posted a question about my 88 240 wagon (AW
    transmission) and its gradual loss of overdrive over about a 10 day period.
    I removed the solenoid and resoldered the wire which clearly was broken but
    I could not be certain whether my removal and inspection broke the wire (the
    rubberized end cap was badly deteriorated exposing the wire). After
    soldering I sealed the end with epoxy and tested the unit with a 12 volt
    bench power supply. After applying power I was able to take a little
    squeegee bottle and blow air through one opening and out the other, which I
    couldn't do when power was off. I also verified that the relay was working
    by checking that voltage went up and down with gear lever switch presses.
    Finally after reinstalling the solenoid and testing while parked, I could
    hear clicking from both the relay and the solenoid.

    However I still do not have 4th gear. The transmission is working very
    smoothly as a 3 speed. My question is whether there is anything else simple
    and inexpensive that I can do in hope of recovering 4th gear. This is a
    high mileage vehicle that I bought for $1000 only several months ago so it's
    not a car that I'm willing to invest a lot of money in. Thanks.

    RC
     
    Raymond Cruz, Nov 20, 2004
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  2. Raymond Cruz

    Stuart Gray Guest

    squeegee bottle and blow air through one opening and out the other, which I
    couldn't do when power was off. " Eh? It's your switch on the gear shift
    if the relay is working
     
    Stuart Gray, Nov 21, 2004
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  3. Raymond Cruz

    Raymond Cruz Guest

    I stated that operating the gear shift switch causes 12V to be switched on
    and off. Also operating the switch results in audible clicks from both the
    relay and solenoid. Not mentioned was that the dashboard arrow goes on and
    off. So what is it about the switch that still could not be working?
     
    Raymond Cruz, Nov 21, 2004
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  4. Raymond Cruz

    Dex Guest

    If the solenoid valve is working then I would assume there is no
    hydraulic circuit. There could be an air bubble in the solenoid or it isn't
    receiving oil from the transmission. It may eventually pump the air out, if
    that is the problem.
     
    Dex, Nov 21, 2004
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  5. Raymond Cruz

    James Sweet Guest

    He must have missed that part, if the solenoid is getting 12v, clicking, and
    allowing air to pass through, then the problem is something internal to the
    transmission. Sorry I can't be more specific than that, my solution to any
    problem like this has been to yank the automatic and install a manual
    gearbox in it's place.
     
    James Sweet, Nov 22, 2004
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  6. Raymond Cruz

    Danil Guest

    I'm afarid I have to ask you then if you would part with it (I need
    parts) Yeah, like who doesn't, right? Anway if can't get resolution to
    your problem, where is she now? Will you consider parting out? In whole?

    Dan
     
    Danil, Dec 4, 2004
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  7. Raymond Cruz

    James Sweet Guest

    It'd be a shame to part out an otherwise good 240 just because of a
    transmission problem, the transmissions are not hard to come by.
     
    James Sweet, Dec 4, 2004
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  8. Raymond Cruz

    Danil Guest

    James I agree, but in case someone really wants to give one up to
    another who may have a genuine (Burning) need to fix up a 240, I thought
    I had to ask as I'm sure someday I may get lucky? Parts (good clean
    ones) don't come by to often where I am. I know a guy who probably still
    has a 5 speed out of 1988 240 in Aurora Ontario Canada. A Volvo repair
    shop called Suters, so when participating in posts where this could
    solve someones issue try and remember to refer to that fact. And no I
    have nothing to gain, and probably should pick it up for myself, but no
    more room exists in my storage.

    Dan.

    I really am hoping for good and clean body parts, responded to a guy who
    posted here several weeks ago that a Volvo hard he operates jointly out
    of Ithaca NY had many a part available. This guy has a habit of not
    returning emails and I began to get suspicious, as he really only wanted
    to fedex a pallet of blue rear hatch, blue right hand rear door, and
    rear bumper parts, where as I really wanted to fetch them myself in
    person. Thats when communication dropped off?
     
    Danil, Dec 6, 2004
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  9. Raymond Cruz

    dave Guest

    I had the same problem on my 740 with AW71. I also tried to repair the
    solenoid, worked for a day. Ended up taking it off, and removing the
    plunger which has to be held up by the coil to allow the 4th/overdrive
    to occur. I then sealed it off with epoxy/silicone and put it back on.
    On the downside, I had no option to downshift, other than a leaded
    right foot.

    Worked for 3 years, until Hurricane Frances dropped a tree on her.
    Sigh

    Cheers
    Dave
     
    dave, Dec 17, 2004
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