91 740 turbo starting problems /electrical gremlins

Discussion in 'Volvo 740' started by theo.chan, May 31, 2007.

  1. theo.chan

    theo.chan Guest

    I recently purchased a 1991 740 turbo and am having some problems with
    starting the car and the electrical system.
    am driving. This means the headlights, turn signals, a/c fan, and
    radio far, power locks and mirrors, and windows will all stop working.
    The ABS and SRS lights are lit up on the dash. I know when this is
    *not* happening since when the lights are on, the bulb failure light
    is always on (even though all the bulbs are working). When I turn off
    the car and restart it, everything works fine again.

    This happened the other day, so I shut off the car and when I tried to
    re-start it, nothing happened. The engine did not crank or anything. I
    was able to push start the car (it's a manual transmission) and drive
    home. I took it to the mechanic the next morning (needed a push start
    again) and he replaced the starter motor. Now when I turn the key, the
    engine will crank, but it will not always turn over. Sometimes it will
    turn over for a second and then stall. If I try to start it too many
    times the starter motor will stop running (I'm guessing the battery is
    out of juice) and the only thing that will get it going is a jump
    start or a push start.

    the mechanic is suggesting replacing the fuel pumps (he claims there
    are two) at a cost of about $500, or at the very least replacing the
    battery which he claims would give me a few more shots at getting the
    starter motor to turn the engine over.

    I don't really have a lot of money right now, so am thinking I may
    just spring for the battery in the hopes that it'll give me enough
    juice to get the engine started.

    I'm wondering what the cause of the electrical and starting problems
    may be, and why the old starter would have just crapped out like that.
    going over the repair records for the car, the ignition was replaced
    about a year ago so is relatively new.

    Thanks!
     
    theo.chan, May 31, 2007
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  2. If by "ignition was replaced" you mean the ignition switch, that takes my
    main suspect off the list.

    If the battery connections haven't been given a good cleaning lately, now's
    the time. My 85 765T has a pair of wires that attach to the positive
    terminal via a ring connector, and when that makes bad contact the
    electrical system cuts out. Also give each wire at the battery a little tug;
    I had one wire corrode in two under the insulation (and have known a couple
    other 740/760 owners with the same problem).

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, May 31, 2007
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  3. I forgot to mention - the fuel pump idea is out in left field, but the
    battery may not be. I've had several batteries fail intermittently. If the
    brushes in the alternator are worn enough, you could lose all electrical
    power occasionally.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, May 31, 2007
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  4. theo.chan

    James Sweet Guest

    Well the problem is definitely *not* the fuel pumps. I would check all the
    battery cables, and the lugs where they attach to the engine block, starter,
    and alternator. Don't forget to check the grounds as well, make sure nothing
    is loose , corroded, or broken under the insulation.
     
    James Sweet, May 31, 2007
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  5. theo.chan

    theo.chan Guest

    Thank you everyone for your replies. I replaced the fuel pump relay
    today (the one that was previously installed was original from '91!)
    and the starting problems seem to have disappeared.

    The electrical problem still seems to manifest itself from time to
    time, such as the power mirrors do not work, but they used to a few
    days ago and simply quit. If the radio is on and I press one of the
    mirror buttons, I can hear the mirror motor engage for a split second
    and then the radio turns completely off and the mirror does not move.

    Thoughts?
     
    theo.chan, Jun 1, 2007
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  6. theo.chan

    James Sweet Guest


    You've got some bad connections somewhere, did the fuse panel get wet? Try
    pulling the radio fuse and reinserting it a few times. Also check the ground
    strap from the engine to firewall.
     
    James Sweet, Jun 2, 2007
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