940T Stalling

Discussion in 'Volvo 940' started by Simes, Jun 24, 2006.

  1. Simes

    Simes Guest

    Hi All,

    Got a 1994 940 Turbo Estate. More and more regularly now it's cutting
    out. Tacho drops to zero (even if the wheels are still turning the
    engine) and Lambda light comes on. Leave it a minute or so and it will
    restart and drive normally - until it happens again.

    Seems mostly to happen after a hot restart - not so often when cold.

    Now the fault code that is set (although it doesn't set a code every
    time) is 1-4-4 - no fuel load signal.

    My first thought was the ever troublesome fuel pump relay - but with
    the tacho dropping too it could be the ignition amplifier on the front
    inner wing... Or am I wrong?

    Checked all the connections to the AMM and to the ignition module on
    the wing and to the sensor just downstream of the AMM - all look good -
    clean and tidy with a smear of grease on them.

    Any thoughts would be jolly helpful!
     
    Simes, Jun 24, 2006
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  2. You're right - the tach dropping while the engine is still rotating is a
    convincing indication of the ignition dying.

    Three common trouble sources come to mind:
    1) The crank angle sensor. In the 940T I think it is in the top of the bell
    housing, but it could be in the distributor. I'll leave it to the experts to
    clarify that. The crank angle sensor has caused more frustration than any
    other intermittent failure because it fails when it wants to and comes back
    when it wants to... no rhyme or reason.
    2) The ignition module. Since ignition module problems are almost always
    heat related and you have done a basic check I don't think it's your
    problem.
    3) In some models of Volvo in this era there is a "radio suppression" relay
    somewhere near the A/C drier. My 765T doesn't have one so I don't know what
    it looks like. User or Mike F would be the top sources of that sort of
    detail.

    A less common source but too easy to overlook is a bad connection at the
    battery. If that maintenance is overdue now is a good time... but I don't
    think that is the problem.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Jun 24, 2006
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  3. With me was same car same problem. Turned out to be the Crank position
    (angle?) sensor.

    When it hard failed it left me stranded with a $100+ towing bill.

    Howard
     
    Howard Nelson, Jun 24, 2006
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  4. I think you're right - crank position sensor for hall effect pickups, crank
    angle sensor when it is the optical type like my old Nissan had.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Jun 25, 2006
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  5. Simes

    Simes Guest

    Michael said:
    Well - I've replaced the CAS and the ignition module - still exactly
    the bloody same!

    Any more thoughts?
     
    Simes, Jun 27, 2006
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  6. Simes

    Mike F Guest

    Look for a black relay with 4 round pins, it's usually clipped somewhere
    near the shock towers under the hood. It's the next most common cause
    of these random stallings.

    --
    Mike F.
    Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont.

    Replace tt with t (twice!) and remove parentheses to email me directly.
    (But I check the newsgroup more often than this email address.)
     
    Mike F, Jul 4, 2006
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  7. Simes

    Simes Guest

    Mike said:
    Cheers Mike - seems that the fuel pump relay was the culprit. A bit of
    resoldering and all appears well.
     
    Simes, Jul 5, 2006
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