Advice on fixing stop lights 740 GL

Discussion in 'Volvo 740' started by Geronimo, May 30, 2005.

  1. Geronimo

    Geronimo Guest

    It is an 89 740 GL. I got a haynes manual that has a diagram
    (although the last year shown is only 87). Ha! European diagrams make
    little sense! Anyway, the fuse is good. THe brake light in the rear
    window works fine, but the left and right main brake lights do not
    work. Actually they are intermittent, or were.... now they are inop
    all the time it seems, and the "bulb out" indicator is illuminated on
    the inst. panel. I see that the right and left brake lights branch at
    the bulb failure sensor. (Could not see where the rear window brake
    light branches off, unfortunately.) Seems like the bulb failure
    sensor is the thing to check next, could be a loose connector? But
    where is this module located? Don't have a clue.
    I checked the bulbs, connectors, and wire harness in the trunk, it
    all seems OK, nothing obvious.
    If I could get into the harness near the rear window brake light, I
    wold just run a new wire to the main brake lights, but I don't see how
    you get to it. Thanks.
     
    Geronimo, May 30, 2005
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  2. Geronimo

    James Sweet Guest


    The most likely culprit at this point is the bulb failure sensor, it's a
    round can plugged into the relay tray. If you pop it open you'll see two
    circuit boards stacked, and probably some cracked soldering. Heat up the
    solder joints and flow a bit of new rosin core solder into any that look
    suspect and you should be good to go. If you or someone you doesn't know how
    to solder, you can replace the sensor but you should at least look inside to
    verify the problem.
     
    James Sweet, May 30, 2005
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  3. Geronimo

    Rusty Guest


    I was going to suggest the same thing James. But, I'll add that the red
    "can" relay is a pricey item new. There are often relay sets on eBay for a
    fraction of the cost of new.

    RS
     
    Rusty, May 31, 2005
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  4. Geronimo

    James Sweet Guest


    Yeah they are pricey! I would definitly suggest trying to fix the existing
    one first, or even take it to a TV repair shop, any tech at one of those
    places could fix it up in a few minutes. Pretty clever design really, the
    old ones use two coils wound around a reed switch and wired out of phase. So
    long as the current is equal, the magnetic field cancells out but any
    imballance results in enough magnetism to trigger the reed switch and turn
    on the bulb failure warning. Of course any bad connection in the whole mess
    will kill the lights and the sensor is very sensitive to corroded sockets
    and such.
     
    James Sweet, May 31, 2005
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  5. Geronimo

    Mike F Guest

    I've only ever seen the relay make all 3 bulbs fail, not to say that it
    can't fail to allow only the 3rd light to work. I'd first look at the
    condition of the bulb holders, circuit cards and the condition of the
    plastic of the taillight itself where the bulb holders sit as it often
    melts there.

    --
    Mike F.
    Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont.

    Replace tt with t (twice!) and remove parentheses to email me directly.
    (But I check the newsgroup more often than this email address.)
     
    Mike F, May 31, 2005
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  6. Geronimo

    James Sweet Guest

    Didn't he say he already checked that?

    Both times I've resoldered a bulb failure sensor the center brakelight still
    worked fine but the main brakelights and in one case, one of the taillights
    were out.
     
    James Sweet, Jun 1, 2005
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  7. Geronimo

    Mike F Guest

    Yeah, but often when there's a problem with melting it's not obvious
    until you're looking for it.

    --
    Mike F.
    Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont.

    Replace tt with t (twice!) and remove parentheses to email me directly.
    (But I check the newsgroup more often than this email address.)
     
    Mike F, Jun 1, 2005
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