Are volvos expensive to maintain?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by James Sweet, Sep 8, 2003.

  1. James Sweet

    James Sweet Guest

    Generally no more expensive than a Japanese car, the only problem is if you
    aren't inclined to work on it yourself it can be tricky to find a good
    independent shop. Avoid dealers unless absolutely nessesary, they have no
    real interest in working on older cars and will only do their best to
    convince you to buy a new one. People taking their Volvo to dealers for
    service is likely much of the reason for the rumor that they're expensive to
    maintain. I have several older ones and they've been the cheapest to
    maintain cars I've ever owned, used parts are abundant, there's a few good
    online dealers that stock new stuff at discount prices, there were few
    significant changes throughout the years they were produced so most of the
    common faults are well documented. If you're the type who likes to work on
    your own car they're hard to beat, everything fits together in a logical
    fashion, there's lots of room to work in the engine compartment, no special
    tools required for any of the routine stuff, it's a shadetree mechanic's
    dream. Do some research, have the car checked out by a Volvo knowledgeable
    mechanic and keep up on the scheduled maintenance. A well maintained
    200/700/900 series car will generally run until the interior and body
    crumble to dust.
     
    James Sweet, Sep 8, 2003
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  2. James Sweet

    PCB Guest

    I need to buy a used car and I'm considering a late'80s/early'90s Volvo
    stationwagon, due to the abundant cargo space and a sale price that I
    can afford. I have heard that volvos are expensive to fix and that has
    always adjusted my choices towards Japanese imports. American cars
    have never been (and will never be) considered until they get better.
    To what extent are the rumors true about volvos being expensive to fix?
    Is it just expensive if I do something such as accidentally hit
    something, or are exhaust, brake and other regular upkeep services
    costly too? Are the transmissions (automatic in particular) durable?

    Another question not related to the message topic, but more to my
    interest in volvos - Is there a website that lists the specifications,
    standard features, and offered options of all the US volvos of the past
    10-20 years?

    Thanks for all useful answers.
     
    PCB, Sep 8, 2003
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  3. Seconded. After 10 or so 140/164/240 series cars, the least $ per mile
    or year of any of the several hundred cars I've had. Now refined to only
    Volvos [and old Mercedes, OT]. Google the rest, tons of stuff. Here's
    why you should buy an old brick:
    http://langis.richard.tripod.com/accident.html
    [Regulars will please excuse the repetition: this is far more important
    than maintenance costs.]
    Today I went for a blast in a Ferrari Testarossa, a stunning car, [way
    OT - http://classiccars.orcon.net.nz/1987ferraritestarossa.htm ] but I'd
    rather drive my 245 - http://classiccarfair.orcon.net.nz/volvo245.htm -
    around town. Some of the newer Volvos seem to be missing primary safety
    features. Cheers.
     
    Classic Car Fair, Sep 8, 2003
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  4. I have owned 11 Volvos and really don't know how expensive they are to
    repair since mine seldom need repairs. I faithfully get routine service
    at my Volvo dealer and don't have many problems. Just about all
    problems are covered by warranty.

    I find that people who go to independant garages have more problems. It
    could be that they don't know what they are doing and cause problems.

    For more details, visit my website.
     
    Stephen M. Henning, Sep 8, 2003
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  5. PCB:

    I think Volvos can be expensive to maintain. But with the internet, it's
    possible to shop around for parts more than ever.

    That said, wear items like brake pads, belts and hoses are no big expense.
    If you need electrical parts or major components, then yes, it is expensive.
    Like all foreign cars, part supplies dry up sooner. If the volvo you're
    looking at has been cared for and everything works, then you should be OK.

    It helps if you can do some maintenance yourself. That saves a lot of $$$
    over the years. I would look for rust on the RWD cars and verify ALL the
    electrical controls work. Do a CARFAX too.

    Volvos can be rewarding cars to drive and pile on the miles. They have
    character and are somewhat unique on the road, depending on where you live.
    Swedes have a different way of doing things (IKEA) and that styles comes
    through on their cars too. Plus, the wagons are very roomy and useful,
    unlike a lot of Japanese cars, especially for tall people.

    Good luck
     
    Jeff Lesperance, Sep 8, 2003
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  6. James Sweet

    Rob Guenther Guest

    My family has a 1993 960. The most expensive thing that has been done is the
    steering rack, which was my mothers fault for it leaking at the pump (she
    turns the wheel when the car isn't in motion quite a bit). We have had to
    replace a leaking rear caliper, brake pads once, then all the fluids and
    such. The second biggest repair was a new oilpan, an oilchange shop didn't
    realize it was aluminum, and stripped the threading.

    Our car has no rust whatsoever on it, and it is a Canadian car, and
    everything works great, minus the stereo, which is going south. The Volume
    knob really needs electronics cleaner sprayed in it, and the FM antenna
    seems to have a fault in the radio unit itself.

    I would recommend a 960 or V90 to you. (no bias whatsoever ;-) my dad said
    it's a MUCH more pleasant car to own over the 240's and 740's (including a
    16V) he ahs had, I have never driven the "lesser" models, but I think the
    960 is fantastic).

    If you get a 960 the ECC is weird.... It works well, but it gets confused at
    certain temperatures, if its REALLY hot, do it yourself, or you might get
    cool coming from the centre ducts, and super frozen ice air coming out the
    side vents... in temperate/pretty hot days its really good, in the winter is
    awesome. In any case, its not as bad as using sliders/dials to control
    temperature.
     
    Rob Guenther, Sep 8, 2003
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  7. From your original request description, I think you are looking for a 240
    (cheapest, most reliable), a 740, or a 940 (more expensive). All 3 of these
    were considered pretty durable, and share the same engine and rear wheel
    drive transmission. Newer models, like the 850, S70, S90, S60, S80, etc.,
    are probably nicer but more expensive cars and can not be more durable than
    the first 3 I mentioned.

    All of these cars are comfortable, both in town and long hiway trips. The
    240, 740, and 940 (non-turbo) do not have super-peppy engines - it was just
    not a priority for Volvo.

    The transmissions, if the fluid is flushed and changed on schedule, will
    last till the car crumbles.

    The best way to keep the cost of ownership down is to do the maintenance on
    schedule. If you are knowledgeable and a little handy, you can do most
    maintenance yourself. Be careful about who you choose to do the rest.
    Dealer service seems to have a bad reputation, mostly on the high cost side,
    but you must understand that not all dealers deserve the reputation caused
    by some. Likewise, some independent mechanics are very well trained, do
    quality work, and charge a reasonable price, while other independents are
    not so good. Take your time to check out the mechanic's ability. Also,
    <big><bold><emphasized>be sure to have a used car inspected by a mechanic
    who is very knowledgeable with the model you are looking at before buying.
    Ask for written report, which will help you to not only get price estimates
    for any necessary repairs, but also to help negotiate the best purchase
    price.</big></bold></emphasized> Do not buy a used car that has not been
    maintained.

    The best way to drive up the cost of ownership is don't do the scheduled
    maintenance. This is such a simple philosophy, and is very much in line
    with the overall Volvo tradition.

    G'luck.
     
    Pat Quadlander, Sep 9, 2003
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  8. James Sweet

    L.A. Guest

    I disagree on the cost issue. Parts are more costly, harder to get, and
    generally indy shops are also more expensive than Jap shops. If you want
    better costs, go Japanese. I've had a mere 4 volvos for about 500K miles in
    the last 15 years.
     
    L.A., Sep 9, 2003
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  9. James Sweet

    ColdCanuck Guest

    ColdCanuck, Sep 9, 2003
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  10. James Sweet

    TM Guest

    Having worked on Americans and Japs before, and working recently on
    Volvos, I find them expensive to mantain. Just my .02
     
    TM, Sep 9, 2003
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  11. James Sweet

    Rob Guenther Guest

    They are probably cheaper to run then an older Ford Taurus... those things
    eat parts like trannies, suspension, other stuff, and the bodies rot out.
     
    Rob Guenther, Sep 9, 2003
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  12. The most expensive headlamp ever made was for a Subaru rust bucket.

    I still have my '90 Subaru rust bucket. It is not worth anything on the
    used car market. We had to replace the tailgate. It had rusted so bad
    they couldn't fix it. The tailgate handle actually fell off. They
    patched and touched up the rest of the car. That lasted about one year.
    It is rusted all over again. We just use the Subaru in winter when the
    roads are icy or snow covered. The rest of the year my wife drives her
    850.
     
    Stephen M. Henning, Sep 10, 2003
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  13. The Volvos of that era are a little pricey to maintain compared to
    Japanese cars, but they also seem to last a bit better. Our '88 240 has
    averaged about $75/month in repairs and preventative maintainance over the
    five years we've had it, but my '86 Civic Si seems determined to start
    catching up. The AW-71 automatic tramission is very sturdy if you give it
    fresh fluid every few years, and the basic engine longblock is also rugged.
    It's the little things like wiring and accessories that drive up the repair
    tags. The steering rack seems a little fragile compared with the rest of
    the running gear. If you can/want to work on a 240 yourself, it isn't
    expensive to maintain. Brakes and exhaust are no more expensive than for a
    Camry.
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    Michael Cerkowski, Sep 18, 2003
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