????Auxiliary Fuel Pump????

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Artful Dodger, Nov 5, 2003.

  1. Okay guys

    By now you know that I am a complete failure when it comes to the '89' Volvo
    740GLE estate with the b230e k Jet 8v motor fuel system. So it will come to
    no surprise that I ask another dumb question...

    What does the auxiliary fuel pump actually do?


    Thanks!

    Stewart, after hours of trawling through many car parks for an entire day.
    I was unable to find another 740 GLE owner. The closest I got was an SE.
    GL's seem popular though. I fear a 2.0 carb would be of no assistance to me
    though.
     
    Artful Dodger, Nov 5, 2003
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  2. From a point at sea, to the circles of your mind, this is Artful
    Dodger:
    It's not failure, it's a learning curve.

    It acts as a primer for the main pump. As you know by now, K-Jet
    depends upon fairly high pressure in the fuel supply line, so the
    supply needs to be consistent. Without the in-tank pump the main pump
    can draw in air when the fuel level gets low, and this will lead to
    erratic engine running.


    --

    Stewart Hargrave

    I run on beans - laser beans


    For email, replace 'SpamOnlyToHere' with my name
     
    Stewart Hargrave, Nov 6, 2003
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  3. Artful Dodger

    Mike F Guest

    When it's hot the low pressure in the line from the tank to the main
    pump can cause the fuel to vapourize in the line. The pump does not
    pump vapour very well, so the fuel supply to the engine is compromised.
    If you look at the older injected Volvos, (mid 1977 and earlier) that
    were made in the days before auxiliary fuel pumps, you see the pump is
    mounted right beside the tank, and the supply line comes out the side of
    the tank (not out through the fuel sender like the later ones) to
    minimize these problems. What I don't understand, I can see adding the
    auxiliary fuel pump as a Band-Aid to an existing design, why didn't they
    just go to one pump in the tank when they designed the 700 series?
     
    Mike F, Nov 6, 2003
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  4. Artful Dodger

    James Sweet Guest

    What I don't understand, I can see adding the
    IIRC in the later 700's they did, but it wasn't until they went to the
    Regina fuel system.
     
    James Sweet, Nov 6, 2003
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  5. Artful Dodger

    Peter Milnes Guest

    I thought that they did for carburettor engines and only added the main pump
    when higher fuel injection pressures were required.

    Cheers, Peter.

    : Artful Dodger wrote:
    : >
    : > Okay guys
    : >
    : > By now you know that I am a complete failure when it comes to the '89' Volvo
    : > 740GLE estate with the b230e k Jet 8v motor fuel system. So it will come to
    : > no surprise that I ask another dumb question...
    : >
    : > What does the auxiliary fuel pump actually do?
    : >
    : > Thanks!
    : >
    : > Stewart, after hours of trawling through many car parks for an entire day.
    : > I was unable to find another 740 GLE owner. The closest I got was an SE.
    : > GL's seem popular though. I fear a 2.0 carb would be of no assistance to me
    : > though.
    :
    : When it's hot the low pressure in the line from the tank to the main
    : pump can cause the fuel to vapourize in the line. The pump does not
    : pump vapour very well, so the fuel supply to the engine is compromised.
    : If you look at the older injected Volvos, (mid 1977 and earlier) that
    : were made in the days before auxiliary fuel pumps, you see the pump is
    : mounted right beside the tank, and the supply line comes out the side of
    : the tank (not out through the fuel sender like the later ones) to
    : minimize these problems. What I don't understand, I can see adding the
    : auxiliary fuel pump as a Band-Aid to an existing design, why didn't they
    : just go to one pump in the tank when they designed the 700 series?
    :
    : --
    : Mike F.
    : Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont.
    :
    : Change cant to ca and remove parentheses to email me directly.
     
    Peter Milnes, Nov 7, 2003
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  6. Artful Dodger

    Mike F Guest

    Right, I was just pointing out they were several "fuel system
    generations" behind in making the switch to one pump only. The 850 had
    one pump only, and the last few years of 900 series did as well. Two
    pumps is a needless complication and extra expense.
     
    Mike F, Nov 7, 2003
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  7. Artful Dodger

    Mike F Guest

    No the under car (main) pump was first for fuel injected cars. Then
    they added the tank pump to prime the main one. I'd never heard of tank
    pump carb Volvos until this week, our (Canada's) last carb Volvos (1984
    240, B21A) only had the mechanical engine driven pump.
     
    Mike F, Nov 7, 2003
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    Alex Zepeda Guest

    The 960s only had one pump as well.

    However, at least with the 850s and newer (and I believe the Regina
    equipped cars too).. that one in-tank pump requires that the tank be
    dropped to access it.

    With the two pump setup, you can access both pumps quite easily without
    dropping the fuel tank.

    - alex

    '85 244 Turbo
     
    Alex Zepeda, Nov 8, 2003
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  9. Artful Dodger

    Mike F Guest

    Only the 95 and newer 960 had one pump. And the tank doesn't need to be
    dropped on any 700/900 or 850 to remove the sender, and the pump hanging
    on it. I'm not sure one way or the other on the new style cars (S80 and
    newer), but I can't imagine why they'd be any different.
     
    Mike F, Nov 10, 2003
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