Avoid Major Oil Companies!

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Ralf, Aug 31, 2005.

  1. Ralf

    Ralf Guest

    Subject: AVOID major oil companies!






    This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the "don't buy gas on a certain day"



    The novelist George Eliot once said that "it is never too late to become what you might have been."
     
    Ralf, Aug 31, 2005
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  2. Michael Pardee, Aug 31, 2005
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  3. A little thought might help.

    If you boycott the major oil brands, they will sell their refined gas to
    the minor oil distributors.

    just business, you know.

    The only ones you hurt will be the franchisees who own the local filling
    stations.

    j
     
    Into the living sea of waking dreams, Aug 31, 2005
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  4. Ralf

    James Sweet Guest


    And they'll laugh at this one too, the oil all comes from the same few
    places, the only way to hurt the oil companies is to consume less of the
    product. Don't like the price of gas, don't drive a car, it's that simple.
     
    James Sweet, Sep 1, 2005
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  5. $1.25 au a litre which at 4.56 litres to the gallon is expencive .But as we
    export sweet crude and import tar oila go figure .world parity means
    although we have nothing to do with the US oil ,we still pay what the
    countries who dont have oil ,pay which is a rip off .."Ralf"
     
    John Robertosn, Sep 3, 2005
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  6. Ralf

    Andy Guest

    Still HALF the price of petrol in the UK so whats your worry?
     
    Andy, Sep 10, 2005
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  7. the only way to "exercise our muscle" as consumers,
    is to pick carefully what, where, and how much of a product
    we buy...If everyone cuts back, say 25% (on gas)...we
    could put a real "dent" in the demand for oil....Its about
    the only power folks have in a oil based economy.....imho...
     
    ~^ beancounter ~^, Sep 10, 2005
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  8. We tend to think of America's cars, small trucks and SUVs as being the
    lion's share of oil consumption. Although it is the largest single category,
    it is less than half the US oil consumption.
    (http://www.eia.doe.gov/neic/quickfacts/quickoil.html) A whole lot of oil is
    used in heating and commercial transportation - trucks, trains, airplanes,
    ships.... And although the US is the largest importer of oil, it isn't the
    only importer of oil. Since US gasoline is only about 1/9 of the world
    production (http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/ipsr/t22.xls), reducing that by 25%
    affects world oil demand less than 3% - hardly a bump in the landscape. If
    every gasoline vehicle in the US were taken off the road altogether, world
    demand would be cut a scant 11%.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Sep 11, 2005
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  9. Ralf

    John Horner Guest

    What a bunch of idiots. If enough people reduce their consumption of
    fuel the cost will come down, but selective purchasing from particular
    companies or on particular days is not going to due a darn thing.

    John
     
    John Horner, Sep 11, 2005
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  10. Ralf

    James Sweet Guest

    Except drive prices up across the board due to increased overhead in
    shifting resources around to fuel stations people are buying from.

    Of course in the real world only a small percentage of people are stupid
    enough to try to attempt such a scheme so there'll be no real effect.
     
    James Sweet, Sep 11, 2005
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  11. A note to the real idiots,
    The real morons are those who sit by and accept oil company price rip offs
    without question. President Bush said he would have zero tolerance for
    price gougers as a result of the storm, guess Oil Company's and energy
    providers in general are exempt?

    Dale P.........
     
    dale_peterson, Sep 11, 2005
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  12. Ralf

    James Sweet Guest

    The oil companies gouge, no question about it, but what's anyone to do?
    Seriously, they know people need oil, they'll laugh at any silly schemes
    that people come up with because they know they'll have no effect.
    Government regulation is the only way to make a difference and that won't
    happen because so many in the upper government made their fortunes from oil.
     
    James Sweet, Sep 11, 2005
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  13. Ralf

    John Horner Guest

    Hmmm, supply goes down, price goes up. Economics 101.

    The problem isn't the oil companies, the problem is that people keep
    increasing their consumption.

    John
     
    John Horner, Sep 12, 2005
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  14. Ralf

    Doug Warner Guest


    Correct, and our bargain gasoline is one reason why the roads are
    infested with 3-ton 15 MPG unstable fatmobiles.
    Personally, I wouldn't mind if gas prices climbed to around $4.00 per
    gallon, and stayed there, which should reduce consumption.
     
    Doug Warner, Sep 12, 2005
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  15. "The problem isn't the oil companies, the problem is that people keep
    increasing their consumption. "

    i agree...demand must drop before prices will change.....conservation,
    new technology, whatever....if demand drops say 25%...the prices will
    retreat...imho.....(easy to say, hard to do).........
     
    ~^ beancounter ~^, Sep 12, 2005
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  16. Ralf

    Dano Guest

    As we have an expanding economy, demand can't go down - it will only go
    up. The problem isn't the amount of oil (imho) the crude oil price
    have been driven up by speculators. The challange is refining capacity
    and the hundred different gas formulations that the too few refineries
    have to produce.
     
    Dano, Sep 12, 2005
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  17. Dano,

    Maybe the stock speculators make up for the energy costs with their
    dividends. Maybe a reduction in energy stock trading would slow down the
    escalating price of energy. Just a thought?

    Dale P..........
     
    dale_peterson, Sep 13, 2005
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  18. Dano..>>

    "As we have an expanding economy, demand
    can't go down - it will only go up"....

    are you sporting a pair of crystal balls??
     
    ~^ beancounter ~^, Sep 13, 2005
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  19. A better, similar idea is the "buycott" currently in progress.
    Instead of just avoiding the two biggest companies and buying from
    smaller ones that are often as bad, liberals and progressives are
    buying gas from CITGO only, because CITGO is owned by Venezuela.
    The government of Venezuela, while not ideal, is doing a lot to
    help the poor not just in their own country, but in Latin America
    in general. If this isn't enough for you, the Bush administration
    hates them. So if you aren't a "Bushie", consider 'buycotting'
    CITGO.

    And yes, I realize that some CITGO stations buy oil from other
    sources. Most don't. We do what we can.
    --







    http://freevision.org/michael/index.html
     
    Michael Cerkowski, Sep 13, 2005
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  20. Ralf

    James Sweet Guest


    They all will if nobody else buys the oil, it's a valuable commodity in a
    free market, it will be sold wherever people are buying it from the least
    expensive source.

    Of course as I said earlier, most people can plainly see that this whole
    joke will accomplish nothing so the vast majority will get gas at the same
    places they always do for whatever reason they choose them, be it location,
    price, or some other silly preference.
     
    James Sweet, Sep 14, 2005
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