B230FT Fuel Problem

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Slip, May 22, 2006.

  1. Slip

    Slip Guest

    Hello,

    I have a 87 760 Turbo that will not start due to a fuel problem (spray
    starter fluid into the air filter and it vrooms). I have verified fuel
    is being pumped into the injector rail. I have also verified the
    injectors are okay. I am now ohming out the ECU to see if I can find
    anything odd. Everything has checked out so far except one of the
    throttle switch points (#12). Is it possible a maladjusted or broken
    throttle valve switch could prevent the vehicle from starting?

    If not is it more likely to be fuel pressure or air control problem (I
    have not checked this on the ECU yet)?

    Thanks in advance for any help.
     
    Slip, May 22, 2006
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  2. If the throttle switch is open the idle will go high... around 2000 rpm.
    It's possible the Air Mass Meter is defective - unplugging it will produce a
    default setting that will let the engine start and idle.

    In a 1987 my first suspect is the wiring harness. You probably see a number
    of places under the hood where the insulation has fallen off the smaller
    wires. I would be tempted to unplug the injectors (they are wired in
    parallel with only the ballast resistors isolating them) and measure across
    the connectors for a short circuit.

    As far as the air control goes, the only trouble spot I can think of there
    is the short hose that connects the Idle Air Control valve under the
    throttle body to the intake manifold. The one in my '85 hardened and broke
    while I was on the road... I made it to the side before the engine died. If
    you have an air problem the leak will produce a very short and fast "vroom"
    with the starter fluid.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, May 22, 2006
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  3. Slip

    User Guest

    First of all, a turbo only has the idle position contacts operational.
    The fukk load contact set is unnecessary since the load signal from the
    air mass meter at full throttle is more than sufficient.

    Use you DVM to verify that you are indeed getting a pulse to the
    injectors when the engine is cranking. Check the wiring to the resistor
    pack on the left front fender (driver's side) and make sure you have
    continuity through the pack. The injectors on a turbo have a low
    resistance aluminum wire winding for faster throttle response. IIRC they
    measure 2 Ohms each as opposed to the copper wound coils at 4 Ohms each
    on the NA motors.

    Look for a relay with 1323592 molded on it. This is the oddly named
    radio suppression relay. It's really an injector power relay and without
    it the car won't start. In another life it would be the auxiliiary fan
    relay. Actually on your car the Aux fan relay is right next to the
    Injector relay hanging on a bracket behind the power steering reservoir,
    or maybe it's hanging from the coolant reservoir. No mater the two
    relays are identical. Turn the key to the run position and ground each
    of the terminals on the aux fan coolant temp switch through a test
    light. One of them should cause the cooling fan to run. If true then
    swap that relay with the one by the power steering pump. Repeat the
    test. Chances are the second relay will not run the cooling ran. In
    which case the good relay is in the injector position and the car should
    start.

    If not then ground the negative #1 terminal on the coil and crank the
    engine. If the light flashes once or not at all or very faintly then the
    ignition amplifier is not working and it needs to be replaced. It's
    located right by the resistor pack. If the amplifier doesn't produce
    impulses then the fuel pump relay won't close and the fuek injection
    control unit won't fire the injectors.

    Bob
     
    User, May 23, 2006
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  4. Slip

    James Sweet Guest


    If it has the original engine wiring harness then that is almost
    certainly the problem, and if it isn't causing the current no-start, it
    will soon enough.
     
    James Sweet, May 23, 2006
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