Bulb fail warning light

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Bill, Oct 24, 2003.

  1. Bill

    Bill Guest

    When I brake the bulb fail warning light momentarily flashes, and I mean
    momentarily, just for a millisecond. This only happens if I haven't touched
    the brakes for a minute or two. The brake lights work perfectly as do all
    the other sensed lights. I was wondering if there could be a slight lag on
    one of the bulbs.

    Is it a problem or a "characteristic" (what you call a fault when you can't
    diagnose it). I can live with it, unless it is a warning of impending doom.
    I don't even notice it unless I happen to be looking at the instrument
    panel.

    Thanks

    Bill
     
    Bill, Oct 24, 2003
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  2. Bill

    Bill Guest

    Should have said!!
     
    Bill, Oct 24, 2003
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  3. I have a 89 740 (UK)

    I do like this sensor, but it can be a right pain.
    The sensor works on the resistance of the filament of the bulb, and is
    obviously "paired up" with the other bulb on the opposite side of the
    vehicle.

    I have known it to light continuously, because the two of the bulbs in my
    brake lights were made by different manufactures and had differing
    resistances.

    You need to check that all the connections to the bulb and bulb holders are
    clean.

    Or perhaps replace both stop lamp bulbs.

    hope this helps,

    Steve.
     
    Steve Rodgers, Oct 24, 2003
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  4. About every six months the right rear bulb starts to developed a poor ground
    connection. This is on a 86 740.
     
    MaryAnne Olsen, Oct 24, 2003
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  5. Bill

    Stuart Gray Guest

    I had this on my 740's, most common cause I have found, apart from
    mismatched bulbs, is oxidisation on the bulb contacts, or on the holder
    contacts. Make sure everything is clean and buy bulbs in pairs.

    Stuart.
     
    Stuart Gray, Oct 24, 2003
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  6. This specific glitch is usually the third taillight - it is gimmicked into
    the system and is the one blub that is on both circuits.

    Either that or a loose solder joint in the taillights.
     
    Joseph Oberlander, Oct 24, 2003
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  7. Bill

    Bill Guest

    Thanks for that, but can you tell me what you mean by the "third taillight".
    I have red rears for the dark, brake lights, reversing lights, one fog lamp
    and my number plate light. It is a term that we don't use this side of the
    pond.

    Thanks

    Bill
     
    Bill, Oct 24, 2003
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  8. Bill

    Noone Guest

    Bill,

    I did not see anywhere where you stated the model.

    I had that fault develop on a '99 V70 T5 about a month after I bought
    it. The vehicle was under a years warranty so I took it back three
    times and they never found the fault. They changed the bulbs, checked
    the connectors, which were all like brand new, checked the earth runs
    and changed the sensor pack.

    The sensor pack is a switch relay with reed type connectors which
    should switch simultaneously and only fail to do so if there is a
    variation of amperage drawn through either coil due to a fault or
    mis-matched bulbs.

    The usual cause is a bulb on the way out and it's resistance has gone
    up\down realtive to the other and the cure is to change both. Mine was
    due to none of the standard reasons I have seen on any Volvo boards
    and I just resigned myself to living with a momentary flash of the
    bulb out lamp which had no pattern, other than foot brake operation. I
    had a career in electronics and would have loved to have nailed the
    problem with a multi-channel memory scope but other factors in my life
    were more important<g>.

    The fault, which I always suspected was a floating voltage (lack of
    lock down on stability of the power rails) ended after a battery
    change 6 months after I bought the car. Some batteries die very
    slowly, as did mine, but many just fail out of the blue. I feel sure
    that many of the Volvo electrical gremlins are due to battery related
    issues and saw in the last month of mine, onboard computer zeroing,
    clock going to 00.00 and three Electronic Throttle alarms. I put the
    biggest, best 4 year warranty battery on and have never seen a problem
    since.

    Liam
     
    Noone, Oct 25, 2003
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  9. Bill

    James Sweet Guest

    He means the highmount or center brakelight, it's mounted in the lower
    middle of the rear window, IIRC it wasn't included unil '86, so if you have
    a very early '86 it may actually be an '85 model, that light being one of
    very few differences.
     
    James Sweet, Oct 25, 2003
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  10. Bill

    Bill Guest

    I realised that ommision as soon as I posted my intitial query, and put in
    in the post "Sorry, '89 740GL".

    Reading yours and the other replies, perhaps I'll live with it until
    something else goes.

    Thanks

    Bill
     
    Bill, Oct 25, 2003
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  11. It probably just means that the bulbs don't have *exactly* the same current
    draw
    when first lit, but the difference isn't enough to trigger a constant warning
    from the
    circuit. Knowing Volvos, though, it could also be a bare or loose wire,
    somewhere...


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    Michael Cerkowski, Oct 27, 2003
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