Calling all Volvo security (anti-theft) experts

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Roger Mills, Aug 22, 2009.

  1. Roger Mills

    Roger Mills Guest

    I recently left my 2007 V70 D5 with an airport parking company - who managed
    to lose my key! [I have a spare set of keys, and now have the car back, and
    am able to drive it].

    The parking company have said they will pay for a replacement key (about 200
    UKP) but I am concerned that if the original key has fallen into the hands
    of a villain, the car could be susceptible to theft.

    My Volvo dealer says that each key is individually encoded to be recognised
    by the car, so that they can - in effect - de-activate the lost key and
    activate the new one. Apparently when you insert the key into the ignition
    switch, data is read off the key which has to be valid before the engine
    will start. The dealer says that the old key would still open the door -
    presumably by actually inserting the key into the lock rather than using the
    remote control (which hopefully *wouldn't* work).

    I'm not sure how paranoid I had ought to be about all this. The chances are
    that there is a label attached to the keys (by the parking company) on which
    is written the registration number (licence plate number for N. American
    readers) of my car. Although the registration number database in the UK is
    not publicly accessible, it's not all that difficult for a villain to find
    out the name and address of the owner of a car once they know the
    registration number. So my car could, in theory, receive a visit from a
    villain in possession of my old key when it's parked on my drive. The
    villain would be able to open the doors and steal the contents - and open
    the bonnet (hood) - and possibly hot-wire it to drive it away. [I assume
    that the key would still turn in the ignition, and release the steering lock
    even if it wouldn't start the engine].

    Are there any Volvo security experts out there who would care to offer an
    opinion on the risks which I face? Presumably I would be totally safe if all
    the doorlocks and ignition lock were changed and totally new keys provided -
    but that would be extremely expensive, and I may have difficulty getting the
    parking company to pay for it.

    Your informed comments will be most welcome.

    TIA.
    --
    Cheers,
    Roger
    ______
    Email address maintained for newsgroup use only, and not regularly
    monitored..
    Messages sent to it may not be read for several weeks. PLEASE REPLY TO
    NEWSGROUP!
     
    Roger Mills, Aug 22, 2009
    #1
  2. Roger Mills

    Lloyd W. Guest

    It strikes me that, given your level of concern that someone somehow is
    going to track down your car, open it up and do something, is to drive it
    off a cliff. In the meantime, be sure to check under your bed for the
    boogyman every night. As a last resort, you might consder the possibility
    that anyone who finds your misplaced key could give a shit and just tosses
    it in the trash. Oh, wait a second, maybe the trash man might find it,
    track you down and slit your throat! OMG, there's no way to be totally
    safe, maybe you should kill yourself now.
     
    Lloyd W., Aug 23, 2009
    #2
  3. Roger Mills

    GlennK Guest

    Have the dealer delete all keys in memory & reprogram all of your other keys
    Glenn K
    Volvo Certified Technician 2008
    ASE Certified Technician 2008
     
    GlennK, Aug 23, 2009
    #3
  4. Roger Mills

    Roger Mills Guest

    In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
    Thank you for your sympathy! <g>

    The most likely scenario is that the keys have genuinely been lost and will
    never show up.

    However, one cannot totally rule out the possibility that they have been
    *stolen* with something more sinister in mind.
    --
    Cheers,
    Roger
    ______
    Email address maintained for newsgroup use only, and not regularly
    monitored.. Messages sent to it may not be read for several weeks.
    PLEASE REPLY TO NEWSGROUP!
     
    Roger Mills, Aug 23, 2009
    #4
  5. Roger Mills

    Roger Mills Guest

    In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
    Hi Glenn,

    Thanks for your response. What would actually be achieved by deleting my
    remaining key and re-programming it?

    If the lost key has been 'deleted', what functions will it *still* perform -
    such as opening the door and releasing the steering lock? What will it *not*
    do? Given an 'invalid' key which nevertheless fits the locks, how difficult
    is it to bypass the security systems - enabling the car to be driven?
    --
    Cheers,
    Roger
    ______
    Email address maintained for newsgroup use only, and not regularly
    monitored.. Messages sent to it may not be read for several weeks.
    PLEASE REPLY TO NEWSGROUP!
     
    Roger Mills, Aug 23, 2009
    #5
  6. Roger Mills

    GlennK Guest

    The key still will open the door & unlock the steering but the car will
    not start due to the key not being in memory
     
    GlennK, Aug 24, 2009
    #6
  7. Roger Mills

    Roger Mills Guest

    In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
    Yes, that's what I thought. But you also suggested deleting the other key
    (which is still in my possession) and re-programming it. Why?
    --
    Cheers,
    Roger
    ______
    Email address maintained for newsgroup use only, and not regularly
    monitored.. Messages sent to it may not be read for several weeks.
    PLEASE REPLY TO NEWSGROUP!
     
    Roger Mills, Aug 24, 2009
    #7
  8. Roger Mills

    GlennK Guest

    Because there is no way for us to delete just 1 key you just delete all
    keys in memory & reprogram the 1 new one & all of your other keys
     
    GlennK, Aug 25, 2009
    #8
  9. Roger Mills

    GlennK Guest

    Because there is no way for us to delete just 1 key you just delete all
    keys in memory & reprogram the 1 new one & all of your other keys
     
    GlennK, Aug 25, 2009
    #9
  10. Roger Mills

    James Sweet Guest



    Who is going to know which of many thousands of Volvos that particular
    key fits? Are they going to wander all over town trying it in every one
    they come across? I wouldn't sweat it.
     
    James Sweet, Aug 25, 2009
    #10
  11. Roger Mills

    Roger Mills Guest

    In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
    As I explained in my OP, the carpark people will have attached a label to
    the key which shows my registration (licence plate) number - which can be
    traced to my name and address. So, if the car is parked on my drive . . .
    --
    Cheers,
    Roger
    ______
    Email address maintained for newsgroup use only, and not regularly
    monitored.. Messages sent to it may not be read for several weeks.
    PLEASE REPLY TO NEWSGROUP!
     
    Roger Mills, Aug 25, 2009
    #11
  12. Roger Mills

    Andy Guest

    Nope. Wouldn't make much of a difference.

    My last car (ok, so not a Volvo) was stolen from out the front of my
    workplace.

    Rear 1/4 window smashed, doors opened, dashboard broken down, hotwired
    and driven off in under 30 seconds. This happened in the middle of the
    day.

    Cheers,
    Andy.
     
    Andy, Aug 29, 2009
    #12
Ask a Question

Want to reply to this thread or ask your own question?

You'll need to choose a username for the site, which only take a couple of moments (here). After that, you can post your question and our members will help you out.