Desperate: need advice on object that fell into oil pan

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Rick, Nov 18, 2005.

  1. Rick

    Rick Guest

    I desperately need a little advice as I'm heading out of town for
    the weekend and I think I may have created a problem for myself!

    I have a 1999 Volvo S80 that I had put away for the summer
    and I pulled it back out for the winter.

    The oil needs to be changed and I was checking the power steering
    fluid and the oil levels before driving it much further. When
    I went to pull the oil dipstick out, it got stuck and broke into
    several small pieces.


    I was able to get most of the pieces out but one of the small pieces
    fell down the tube.

    Assuming the piece went all the way down, what are the risks?
    Could that little piece cause a blockage and, perhaps cause
    engine seizure?

    Would changing the oil remove the piece? Would it be safe
    to drive a few miles to the dealer to have them fix it?

    Any advice would be greatly appreciated!! The quicker
    the better!!

    Thanks!
     
    Rick, Nov 18, 2005
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    athol Guest

    Depends how big it is. I dropped a small bolt into the sump of a 350
    chev years ago - down the distributor hole. The bolt was probably a
    5/16UNC bolt about 12mm (1/2") long, with a captive nut under the head.

    IIRC, it was one of the bolts that held the coil bracket onto the inlet
    manifold and I was removing it to convert the engine to electronic
    ignition.

    The bolt stayed in the sump for several years, coming out when I
    removed the sump for an unrelated reason. I think it was the sump that
    got squashed in a crash, but might have been when I was changing sumps
    to put the engine in a different car. Don't remember, but doesn't
    matter.

    The bolt had a few gouges in it where it had obviously been a bit close
    to moving parts of the engine, but there were only about 2 or 3 marks
    and there was no obvious damage to the engine, which is still in a car
    (a Volvo, even) and runs fine.

    I don't know enough about the specific model of engine or the size of
    the broken piece, but as a general rule, I'd suggest that a small piece
    shouldn't do too much damage provided that it is too big to be picked
    up by the oil pickup and ends up falling into the bottom of the sump.
     
    athol, Nov 18, 2005
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  3. Rick

    Rick Guest

    I guess that's my big concern there: It's small, plastic and likely
    to float and not go to the bottom.

    Thanks for the response.
     
    Rick, Nov 18, 2005
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    James Sweet Guest


    If it's plastic it probably won't cause much of a problem, if it does
    get into anything moving, it'll be shredded and end up as bits in the
    oil filter.
     
    James Sweet, Nov 18, 2005
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  5. Rick

    athol Guest

    That's pretty much my thoughts, too. Extremely unlikely to damage any
    metal bits in the engine. If it floats, it might get bashed around a
    bit and that's about that.

    Of course, if you have some engine oil and another piece of the same
    stuff, you could put it in a jar or similar and check whether it floats
    or sinks. If it sinks, forget about it completely!
     
    athol, Nov 18, 2005
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    xntrick Guest

    How about dragging a magnet from the outside of the sump all round to
    the centre where you drain the oil and see if it shows up....ahem drain
    oil first!!!
     
    xntrick, Nov 18, 2005
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    m-gineering Guest

    Timing gear teeth are a regular find in the oilpan of B20 & B30 engines,
    so usually small pieces pose no problem. Provided the sieve on the
    oilpump is intact. This could be damaged if you have a large dent in the
    bottom of the oilpan. You don't want the oilpressure relief valve jammed
    open!
     
    m-gineering, Nov 18, 2005
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    Crazy Dog Guest

    xntrick wrote:

    It won't. It's plastic. :)
     
    Crazy Dog, Nov 18, 2005
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  9. Rick

    James Sweet Guest


    Given that it's plastic, I have slight doubts as to a magnet being
    helpful :)
     
    James Sweet, Nov 18, 2005
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    blurp Guest

    Isn't that what an oil filter's for? It would stand to reason that the
    filter stands between the oil in the pan and the engine. Perhaps next
    time you change the filter you'll find the piece.

    blurp.
     
    blurp, Nov 18, 2005
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  11. Rick

    Randy G. Guest

    For a plastic part that is probably true, but if it were a metal part
    it would have to go through the oil pump first, and that could
    definitely be a problem.

    And as another poster stated, you don't want anythign to get wedged
    into the oile pressure relief valve.


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    Randy & \ \/ /alerie's
    \__/olvos
    '90 245 Estate - '93 965 Estate
    "Shelby" & "Kate"
     
    Randy G., Nov 19, 2005
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  12. Rick

    Andy Dingley Guest

    Nope. The filter is between the oil pump and the "engine". Anything
    caught by the filter has already passed through the pump. There's also a
    simple wire mesh strainer on the pump inlet, so as to protect the pump
    itself. Get a small piece of wire, or a coil of swarf from a stripped
    bolt, through this strainer and into the pump's gears and it's likely to
    damage the pump, possibly enough to cause low oil pressure problems.
     
    Andy Dingley, Nov 25, 2005
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  13. A plastic oil dipstick?
    My XC has a cheap yellow plastic transmission dipstick with no handle on
    it which is concealed by a hose that is stamped "made in Spain", just to
    keep owners from checking their own fluid or it's color.
     
    .................................................., Nov 27, 2005
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