Electrical problem 1985 740

Discussion in 'Volvo 740' started by jimb, Mar 28, 2006.

  1. jimb

    jimb Guest

    Good day,

    I have some sort of electrical problem with my 85 740 (and who
    hasn't?).

    The other day I noticed that all the indicators did not come on when I
    turned the key. The car did start however.

    All that comes on is the up-shift indicator, the oil pressure warning
    light and the seat belt indicator.

    Drove the car that day.

    Next battery was dead. Still there is an issue with indicators. I
    assume battery is not getting charged.

    Charged battery cleaned battery terminals and small ground to chassis
    and car started. Disconnect the small ground wire and the car will not
    run.

    Indicators are still not right.

    Battery and alternator are both fairly new. Failure of either of these
    would not affect the indicators once the battery was charged.

    I can hear what I believe to be a relay clicking under the center
    console (seat belts?).

    Seems like I have lost ground somewhere.

    Before I start tearing the dash board (facia) apart…

    Where are the grounds in this car? Where does the instrument cluster
    get ground? Where does the electrical panel (relays and fuses) get
    ground?

    Is there another chassis/body ground?

    What would cause the battery to die (or more probably not get
    charged)?

    On cold days, indicators take a while to come on. Car will not start
    until indicators come on (I suspect that is normal). Changed fuel
    filter and delay seemed less.


    TIA

    jimB
     
    jimb, Mar 28, 2006
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  2. jimb

    john Guest

    You could check the chassis/body ground near the head lights.
     
    john, Mar 28, 2006
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  3. jimb

    User Guest

    Try moving the key back and forth just a little bit in each direction.
    If the contacts don't line up just right in a worn igniton switchnthe
    dash lights don't come on. Alternatively if the ground wire from the
    instument cluster isn't making contact the lights won't come on.

    Bob
     
    User, Mar 29, 2006
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  4. jimb

    jimb Guest

    Bob
    I will try that again.

    I am concerned about why the battery went dead and I am assuming that
    the issue with the indicators is related and not a coincidence.

    Given what I know about Volvo electrics, I need to locate and check
    all grounds.

    Instrument cluster and relay panel mainly.


    jimB
     
    jimb, Mar 29, 2006
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  5. jimb

    Mike F Guest

    The missing warning lights are all turned on at the same time as the amp
    (aka battery) light. If the alternator fails in a certain way, not only
    will you get no warning lights, you'll get no charging. This seems to
    be what has happened in your case. This may require only brushes, the
    whole voltage regulator, or the whole alternator, depending on what has
    failed. Also check the thin red wire at the alternator, as well as the
    thick blue ground wire.

    --
    Mike F.
    Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont.

    Replace tt with t (twice!) and remove parentheses to email me directly.
    (But I check the newsgroup more often than this email address.)
     
    Mike F, Mar 29, 2006
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