Erractic Idling

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Magnumforce, Dec 13, 2003.

  1. Magnumforce

    Magnumforce Guest

    Hello,

    I have a problem with my Volvo S40 T4 (UK 1997 model) which I hope to get
    some advice on.

    The car will idle very erratically after city driving. At a stand still the
    engine will rev from 200rpm to 1500 rpm by itself, only way to stop is rev
    the engine to 5000rpm for a while. At the same time if I
    drive the car while this is happening the car will feel like it wants to go
    backwards, whilst making a clicking noise from the engine. The car has been
    known to stall during stand-still idling. Another thing I have noticed is
    that the dash will brighten and then dim while it is rough idling.

    The problem is getting worse, and I do have a warranty for the car which I
    can claim on.

    Any ideas? Maybe alternator?

    Any suggestions would be appreciated.
     
    Magnumforce, Dec 13, 2003
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  2. Magnumforce

    john Guest

    Sounds as though it may be the idle by pass valve, this allows for engine
    load change at rest, i.e. air con kicking in or putting on the heated rear
    screen for example.

    I may just need a clean out that said it could also be an air leak on the
    induction side somewhere too.

    John
     
    john, Dec 13, 2003
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  3. Magnumforce

    Nobody Guest

    It is a common fault and whilst everyone says it is different things, the
    most common reason is a faulty ECU. If you have the A/C on, switching this
    off will help it too. Mine did it when new (1998) but hasn't done it for the
    past 2 years.

    Just a quirk from a sometimes quirky car..........

    Jose
    "
     
    Nobody, Dec 15, 2003
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  4. Magnumforce

    Magnumforce Guest

    Hi,

    Thanks for the reply.

    I hardly use a/c. The ecu had no fault codes when last booked for this
    problem, they could not find a fault. Also the ecu had been changed when the
    service light would not go out, but this did not fix that particular fault,
    so they changed it back for the original ecu.

    The problem can be intermittent, and never seems to happen when the dealer
    has it. However with enough city driving it will show itself.

    Thanks
     
    Magnumforce, Dec 15, 2003
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  5. Magnumforce

    Tumkin Guest


    I will preface this by saying I don't know anything about cars, but
    our 99 V70
    had an erratic, rough idle, almost to the point of stalling at
    stand-still. We took it in for repair, the throttle body was cleaned,
    and a cracked serpentine belt replaced. Problem solved!!

    The car is now running pretty good with an exception, a loud,
    sporadic cracking noise....It sounds like ice is hitting the
    windshield!! This is happening about twice a day now whether I'm
    turning, standing still, backing up etc... Any ideas?

    Thanks!!
     
    Tumkin, Jan 3, 2004
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  6. Magnumforce

    Stuart Gray Guest

    I get a sporadic cracking noise from the dash on my '91 740. It is caused by
    having the heater on high. It's the plastics expanding when they get heated
    up when it's cold outside. My older 740 and 240 don't do this, but I have
    noticed that on the older cars the plastics are thicker with more sound
    deadening material on them. IE. the inner covers on the doors on my '86 are
    twice as thick as the ones on my '91, and the roof headlining is also twice
    as thick. Aslo the '86 is a quieter drive than the '91.
    I guess what I am saying is that the build quality of the older bricks is
    better. The later ones in my limited experience have more "accountant" led
    design than the older ones which have more "engineer" led design. This is
    only on the plastics interior side. I think that the outer body shell is
    still just as good if not better on the newer cars. My ideal would be to
    find a perfect interior from say an '86 and build it into a '94 shell.
    My '91 also tells me when I'm doing over 85 mph by a noise from the top of
    the wind screen that sounds like someone trying to start up a set of
    bagpipes. It has to be the black strip covering the top A pillar where the
    windscreen meets the metal. No leaks are apparent, but one of these days I'm
    going to superglue the damn thing down. At rest I can't see the problem, so
    I'm going to have to overclock the wifes hairdryer and point it at the
    screen to see where the noise is coming from.
    Stuart.
     
    Stuart Gray, Jan 3, 2004
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  7. Magnumforce

    Tumkin Guest

    Thanks Stuart. Another poster from back in April wrote about the same
    noise and attributed it to the plastic too...He said the plastic on
    his car was actually cracking where it met the windshield. Our car is
    the same year, but I don't notice any cracks.
     
    Tumkin, Jan 5, 2004
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  8. Magnumforce

    Stuart Gray Guest

    No actual cracks on mine either on my '91. My older '85 started to crack
    across the top of the instrument panel, but the plastics used felt
    different. The newer car seems to have thinner plastic, or the older one had
    more sound deadening material stuck to the plastic. Either way, the older
    car never crackled but did crack, and the newer car plastic looks better but
    crackles, but only when the car is being heated up from very cold. If you
    see what I mean.

    Stuart
     
    Stuart Gray, Jan 6, 2004
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