Haunted radio '89 245

Discussion in 'Volvo 240' started by Jeff Townsend, Feb 11, 2004.

  1. About 80% of the time my car radio looses its presets when I turn off
    the engine. Does not seem to be dependent on duration of "off" time.
    Does the stock Volvo radio have a lithium battery inside to store preset
    info? Is it owner serviceable?

    Jeff
     
    Jeff Townsend, Feb 11, 2004
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  2. Jeff Townsend

    James Sweet Guest

    It probably gets continuous power from the battery, it'd be easy enough to
    check. How's the condition of your fuse box? You may have some corroded
    fuses. Could also be a cracked solder joint inside the radio. If it does use
    an internal lithium battery it's probably not intended to be user
    serviceable but it's certainly possible to do so.
     
    James Sweet, Feb 12, 2004
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  3. Jeff Townsend

    Herman Guest

    Another........... "cracked solder" joint........ LOL....... I don't
    believe it!!!!!!!!
    James,..... what is your fascination with "cracked solder" joints?????????
    Herman '83 282 5.0 H.O. formerly 242 Turbo intercooled.
     
    Herman, Feb 12, 2004
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  4. Jeff Townsend

    Per Hauge Guest

    Seems to me that Herman doesn't believe in cracked solder joints. My
    experience is that the malfunction off any electronics is caused by exactly
    that in more than 50% occasions. I dont mind if Herman belongs to the
    majority of this worlds consumers who throw anything away because repair is
    to expensive. Just leave it to us "believers" to save a lot by fixing solder
    joints.

    P.S just fixed the fuel pump relay on my '98 945 ( cracked solder joints )

    Per Hauge
     
    Per Hauge, Feb 12, 2004
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  5. Jeff Townsend

    Stuart Gray Guest

    Same here funnily enough. Dry joint on my fuel pump relay, fixed. Dry joint
    on my PC's sound card pcb, fixed. Burnt trace on my video card, fixed. Dry
    joint in the "gun" in my television, fixed. Dry joint, telly again, this
    time on the scart lead socket, fixed. Washing machine wouldn't run, guess
    what? This time it was brushes, fixed LOL. A dab of solder has saved me a
    fortune.
    Dry joints aka cracked are so common it's the first thing I look for when
    something goes tits up.
    50% ? more like 90% I'd say............

    Stuart, the one with the soldering iron and a steady hand ;-)
     
    Stuart Gray, Feb 12, 2004
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    Herman Guest

    No, no, no my friend,........ actually I "am" one who very strongly
    believes in "repairing" things. I do not however believe it's "always"
    cracked solder joints....... I keep reading over & over again in this
    group ( which by the way I have been reading for several years) how some
    problems are "possibly" cracked solder joints or cold solder joints, I
    have "rarely" encountered such a problem over my years and I have been
    involved with Volvos and electronics for over 35 years. My '83 still has
    it's original "untouched" fuel relay by the way, which according to
    "some" in here should be impossible!!! ;-)
    Herman '83 282 5.0 H.O.& T-5 formerly 242 Turbo intercooled
    P.S. I would think my car is "some" proof that I believe in "not"
    throwing something away ;-)
     
    Herman, Feb 12, 2004
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  7. Jeff Townsend

    Stuart Gray Guest

    You are a lucky man. You must be able to afford the best
    electronics/electrics along with your Volvo. Good Luck. I will keep my
    soldering iron handy after being "involvoed" for only 22 years.
     
    Stuart Gray, Feb 12, 2004
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    Herman Guest

    LOL,........ I guess I must be lucky ;-), but I do research my purchases!!!
    I "do" have a seldom used soldering iron & gun
    Herman, '83 282 5.0 H.O. & T-5, formerly 242 Turbo intercooled.
     
    Herman, Feb 12, 2004
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  9. Jeff Townsend

    James Sweet Guest


    I'm an electronics repair tech, I service consumer electronics and cracked
    or "cold" solder joints cause at least 75% of the failures I come across,
    with a large remainder of those going to failing electrolytic capacitors.
    99% of the time when you have an intermittant fault, poor soldering is to
    blame.
     
    James Sweet, Feb 13, 2004
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  10. Jeff Townsend

    James Sweet Guest


    The thing is, most people keep using a malfunctioning device until something
    else fails. Very often in TV's for example, the hot running components in
    the horizontal drive section develop cracked soldering, this causes a spike
    that takes out the output transistor and sometimes part of the power supply.
    I've seen other sets, particularly projection, where a cracked solder joint
    will cause a loss of deflection and burn the phosphors in the picture
    tube(s).
     
    James Sweet, Feb 13, 2004
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  11. Jeff Townsend

    James Sweet Guest

    You're running on borrowed time, as a general rule I reflow the solder on
    the heavy connections in the fuel pump relay of any car I own, it's not
    worth getting stuck in a bad part of town or some lonely mountain road
    without a soldering iron. It's such a common problem and so easy to remedy
    while at home.
     
    James Sweet, Feb 13, 2004
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  12. Jeff Townsend

    Per Hauge Guest

    Very well.
    I have not been involved with Volvo's for 35 years but does have 20 years
    off professionel lifes as electronic engineer, and then some on hobby basis
    with electronics. If you have been involved with electronics for 35 years,
    I can not believe that you only rarely encountered problems caused by
    cracked solderings. Any parts that are handling some power (read
    current),and thus be exposed to temperature cyclings, would be likely to
    develop bad soldering joints.
    I also think that you be able to read the same observations on lots of other
    forums on the internet dealing with consumer electronics ( televisions,
    radio, PC's ).
     
    Per Hauge, Feb 13, 2004
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  13. Jeff Townsend

    Mike F Guest

    Put me in a list of people in favour of the "cracked solder joint"
    theory. I've seen and fixed many, including one in an overdrive relay
    in a car my neighbour was test driving at the time with the owner in the
    back seat! The owner could tell I knew what I was doing, and when the
    overdrive worked after he was amazed to say the least. (No I didn't
    have a butane soldering iron with me, I just forced the solder together
    at the crack with a key.)

    While cracked solder joints is not the only thing that goes wrong, it
    happens often enough, and since the cost of fixing can be $0, it's
    always a good first place to look.

    --
    Mike F.
    Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont.

    NOTE: new address!!
    Replace tt with t (twice!) and remove parentheses to email me directly.
    (But I check the newsgroup more often than this email address.)
     
    Mike F, Feb 13, 2004
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