help chasing down poor fuel economy

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by John Roden, Dec 21, 2003.

  1. John Roden

    John Roden Guest

    I have come to the conclusion thatr my 1983 245 b21ft gets pretty
    lousy mileage at about 16 to the us gallon. Here's what I have done
    so far:

    new engine wiring harness
    new plugs, cap and rotor
    new catalytic conevrter
    new 02 sensor
    replaced all the vac lines
    replaced vac delay valve

    I tried spraying some wd 40 around the injectors to see it they were
    leaking, I unplugged the cold start valve to see if was running all
    the time. I have found the coolant temp sensor and idle air motor are
    shot and have new on order, but I don't think this is the problem.

    So... Maybe check the control pressure (really, I mean get it
    checked) but I'm wondering if there are some other items I can check
    myself before I take it to the shop?
     
    John Roden, Dec 21, 2003
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  2. John Roden

    Rusty Guest

    How's the air filter, air mass meter and the oiltrap? Those are things I
    look at when tracking down poor mileage on my B230FT.

    cheers

    RS
     
    Rusty, Dec 21, 2003
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  3. John Roden

    James Sweet Guest

    Well there is no air mass meter or oil trap on a B21FT, but the air filter
    is a good place to start, as well as cleaning off the airflow sensor plate,
    be careful not to disturb it's alignment though.
     
    James Sweet, Dec 22, 2003
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  4. John Roden

    John Roden Guest

    Oops, forgot to list those items, I already did those a while back,
    along with cleaning out the throttle body while I had the intake
    manifold out. Maybe I should turn the screw and lean out the mixture
    a tad?
     
    John Roden, Dec 22, 2003
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    Bob Guest


    My '76 245 & '86 245 both got consistently lousy gas mileage in the
    20-some years I drove them (possibly due to my heavy foot?).

    Now if you mean it happened suddenly... then you may have some problem -
    otherwise, it's normal for your driving habits.
     
    Bob, Dec 25, 2003
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    Gary Heston Guest

    Last time I checked, my 1972 145 B20F was getting around 12-13.5 MPG.
    I'd be real happy if it went up to 16MPG.
    My experience has been that this doesn't have a real bearing on mileage,
    unless you're trying to emulate the _Fast and Furious_ twits with tire-
    burning launches, redlining every gear, etc.

    You'd have to get real numbers from a couple weeks of driving each way
    to be sure, though.
    Yes, it could be a distributor being loose and rotating a bit; strange
    how poor a B20F runs when the timing is off by five degrees. Then again,
    I may need a new distributor; as long as I had the vac line disconnected,
    engine ran smooth whether it was plugged or not; slip the hose on the
    nipple, immediate bogging and timing shifted five degrees. Set it with
    the hose connected, and she's running fine again.

    Lots of fun to do this outside in 40F temperatures, BTW...


    Gary
     
    Gary Heston, Dec 25, 2003
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    TWC Guest

    if its a K jet engine,there's a small hole behind the fuel
    distributor,using a 3mm long hex. key can adjust the A/F ratio at all rpm
    band ,turning clockwise to rich the mixture and counter clockwise to lean
    the mixture.Each time turning this screw not more than 1/4 turn and
    observe the CO ,I've install a A/F meter for monitoring and  notice the
    car perform difference. I adjust this screw on my 240 and Golf 16v to
    improve the fuel economy and accerelation. Its noticeably
    Besides,check the engine timing as well.

    John Roden ¼g¤J¡G
     
    TWC, Dec 26, 2003
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  8. John Roden

    TWC Guest

    my 88 240 with B200E ,CIS K jet , runs at 23mpg-24mpg.

    Gary Heston ¼g¤J¡G
     
    TWC, Dec 26, 2003
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    James Sweet Guest


    I managed to get as low as 15 mpg once on my 240T, but it was right after I
    cranked the boost up to 16 psi, and it was all city driving with lots of
    very hard acceleration. That car should get at least 22 mpg on the highway,
    25 if you drive it somewhat gently. Around town I average 17-19.
     
    James Sweet, Dec 26, 2003
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  10. John Roden

    John Roden Guest

    OK, thanks. I have to find a 3mm that is a lot longer than the only
    one I have, hopefully that will help matters. I bought this thing
    because I wanted better fuel economy than my 4 wheel drive van, but it
    is the same or worse and doesn't have the room and is kind of crummy
    in the snow, even with 4 Nokian tires. At least it has given me the
    chance to sharpen my mechanical and electrical skills and maybe it's
    safer in a crash.
     
    John Roden, Dec 27, 2003
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    James Sweet Guest

    Very much so, and if well taken care of it should last a lot longer, but the
    real joy with these cars is a nice day on a winding road with a good set of
    sport tires. When set up properly you get the utility of a wagon, the
    handling of a sports car, combined with the safety, comfort and longevity
    that made Volvo famous, as well as they seem to be invisible to cops.
     
    James Sweet, Dec 30, 2003
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  12. John Roden

    John Roden Guest

    Boy, the 3mm wrench needed to adjust the fuel flow must need to be
    very long, I'm not having a great deal of luck locating one out here
    in the boonies, I think one of the "t-handle" type is required.

    I still have some more chassis work to do before zipping down any
    winding roads!
     
    John Roden, Dec 31, 2003
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