how many ohms should an ignition module be?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Beck, Mar 24, 2006.

  1. Beck

    Beck Guest

    Volvo 240 ignition module - Does anyone know please what the ohm read out
    should be on this module when not actually in the vehicle?

    Our car has now broken down a couple of miles from home and will not start
    at all. My Dad has bought the ignition module home with a view to testing
    the connectors.

    Despite a search on Google, I am having difficulty finding out what the
    readings from pin to pin should be.

    Results we have at the moment (with module out of vehicle) are the
    following...

    connecting between pins..

    pins 3-4 = 2.1 ohms
    pins 2-4 = 2.1 ohms
    pins 1-4 = 4.6 ohms
    pins 2-3 = 0 ohms (suspect)
    pins 2-1 = 2.5 ohms
    pins 1-3 = 2.5 ohms

    As you can see, most pins are between 2-2.5 but with pins 1-4 being 4.6ohms
    (excessive?) and pins 2-3 being zero.
     
    Beck, Mar 24, 2006
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  2. Beck

    James Sweet Guest


    It's kinda hard to tell much from ohm readings, you really need it to be
    in an operating circuit to test it.
     
    James Sweet, Mar 25, 2006
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  3. Beck

    Beck Guest

    Just managed to get our hands on a new one to test and the readings are
    significantly higher - in the 8-9 range. Perhaps the stalling problem is
    the ignition module and its not serving enough power.
     
    Beck, Mar 25, 2006
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  4. Beck

    James Sweet Guest



    I don't think you fully understand what you're measuring. The readings
    could be different simply due to a different design of a circuit which
    performs the same thing. Try the new one in the car and see how it
    behaves, that's the only way to test it.
     
    James Sweet, Mar 25, 2006
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  5. Beck

    zencraps Guest

    The repair manual I have (Bentley) gives readings, but only when the
    vehicle is running.

    Sort of a Catch-22.
     
    zencraps, Mar 25, 2006
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  6. Beck

    Beck Guest

    No difference unfortunately, the car is still refusing to start at all now.
    Thankfully we only borrowed it from someone :)
     
    Beck, Mar 25, 2006
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  7. Testing in situ gives the following recommended readings. (a) Terminal 4 to
    ground and/or ignition coil terminal 15 should read 12Volts. (b) Terminal 5
    to ground with starter motor operating should show a pulsating reading
    between 0 and 2 Volts. (c) Terminal 1 to coil terminal 15 should read 0.6 to
    1.2 Ohms resistance. (d) Terminal 1 to king lead connector on coil (HT
    terminal) should read 6.5 - 9.0 Ohms resistance. (e) Terminal 2 to ground
    should read 0 Ohms resistance. (f) Ensure that screen (shield) of screened
    cable is connected to Terminal 3. If (c) reading is too low replace coil. If
    (c) is too high, check wire between Terminal 1 and coil terminal 15, replace
    or repair if necessary. If (d) is too low or too high replace coil. If (b)
    is OK but unit is not working try replacement unit. The above information
    comes from the EZ 116 K Ignition system Green Book.

    All the best, Peter.

    700/900/90 Register Keeper,
    Volvo Owners Club (UK).
     
    Peter K L Milnes, Mar 26, 2006
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  8. Beck

    James Sweet Guest


    What car is this and what condition is the wiring harness in? If it's
    earlier than an '89 or so and the engine harness is original then that's
    likely your problem.

    Do check the hall sensor though.
     
    James Sweet, Mar 26, 2006
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  9. Beck

    Beck Guest

    We think its possibly the fuel pump relay (its a 1993 volvo 240e). Symptoms
    (car stalling on slowdown to junctions from a warm engine start) point to
    fuel pump relay although the relay looks in very good condition. Going to
    see if we can borrow one to test the car.
     
    Beck, Mar 26, 2006
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  10. Beck

    James Sweet Guest


    Is the fuel pump running? You should be able to hear it under the car
    while cranking the engine.

    The outside of the relay can look fine and it can still be bad. You have
    to pop the cover off and inspect the soldering on the circuit board.
     
    James Sweet, Mar 27, 2006
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  11. Beck

    Beck Guest

    We had a look at it last night, popped open the cover and it looked brand
    new inside, no corrosion or anything. It was suggested that when the car
    cut out, to place a wire between fuses 4 and 6 to see if the car would
    start. If the car started it was probably the relay. It did start, but
    unfortunately we do not know if it would have started anyway.
     
    Beck, Mar 27, 2006
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  12. The failures show up as hairline cracks in the solder, running around the
    leads for the relay connections. When I was young I could see them in any
    light; now I have to take it into the sunlight and take my glasses off :-(

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Mar 27, 2006
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  13. Beck

    Beck Guest

    I was looking for corrosion :-(
    If we do find hairline cracks, is it possible to just resolder it and be
    done with it? Am finding it extremely difficult to find a replacement. One
    company says they can get one but it will be a 6 week delivery. We need a
    fix now as the car is getting steadily worse.
     
    Beck, Mar 27, 2006
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  14. Have you asked IPD if they have one? http://www.ipdusa.com

    All the best, Peter.

    700/900/90 Register Keeper,
    Volvo Owners Club (UK).
     
    Peter K L Milnes, Mar 28, 2006
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  15. Beck

    Gary Heston Guest

    Yes, resoldering is the recommended alternative to replacement.


    Gary
     
    Gary Heston, Mar 28, 2006
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  16. Beck

    James Sweet Guest


    Yes, it takes about 5 minutes. Just heat up the joints with a soldering
    iron and flow in a bit of fresh rosin core solder, then let it cool. Any
    TV repair shop can do it for you if you lack the tools to do it yourself.
     
    James Sweet, Mar 28, 2006
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  17. Beck

    Beck Guest

    Hi Peter thanks for the link, I actually found one finally later yesterday.
    Going to pick it up today.
     
    Beck, Mar 28, 2006
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  18. Ohm Sweet Ohm
     
    Stephen Henning, Mar 29, 2006
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