I got one for the knowledgable on the list

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Dennis, Jul 11, 2006.

  1. Dennis

    Dennis Guest

    Picked up an '88 244 last week, nice condition, but had
    a rough idle. Get past idle and drive it and it ran quite well.

    Changed the plugs, it was slightly better, but still pretty rough
    at idle. Started poking around sites like Brickboard and others,
    found it might possibly be things like the AMM or dried up
    injector seals.

    One message in a forum said if the AMM is faulty, the idle should
    smooth out if you unplugged it. I tried that and it was better. So, I went
    into my trunk and dug up the AMM from my dearly departed '89 744
    and installed it, and the car idles almost perefectly now, BUT it idles
    quite a bit higher than normal. Without a tach in this car, I can only guess
    at how much - perhap 300 to 400RPM above normal.

    I checked some of the online parts sellers for info on the difference
    between the original AMM, Bosch p/n 0 280 212 007, and the one out
    of my 89 744, Bosch p/n 0 280 212 016. I learned that the '88 has LH 2.2
    while the '89 had LH 2.4. This is apparently the reason for the p/n
    difference.

    Now, the question is, can I continue to use the '89 AMM on this car, without
    damaging something over time, and adjust the idle down a little to make it
    right? Or is there enough difference between the LH 2.2 & the LH 2.4 that
    would rule out continuing to use this one and spending the $$ on the correct
    replacement?

    I have yet to order a Bentley book for this one, so I would also need info
    on
    adjusting the idle properly if I can keep the setup as it is...

    Thanks...

    Dennis
    Putnam Co NY
     
    Dennis, Jul 11, 2006
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  2. I'm not one of the knowledgable (wait for word from Glenn, User or Mike F
    before going overboard) but I think your original AMM was bad and the idle
    adjustment was turned up to artificially compensate.

    With the new AMM, let it idle and look for a knurled knob under the throttle
    body. If you find one, turn it clockwise (count the turns) until the idle
    stops dropping as you screw it in. If it makes things worse, put it back
    where it was. The truly knowledgable can tell you how to adjust it correctly
    if I've put you on the right track.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Jul 11, 2006
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  3. Dennis

    Dennis Guest

    Thank you, Mike - I saw that knob but avoided turning it until I was
    sure it was an adjustment knob. I don't want to start undoing everything
    before I know just what I'm touching...

    and knowledgable is relative - you're a lot more knowledgable than I,
    from what I've seen on the list. <G>

    Dennis
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    Dennis, Jul 11, 2006
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  4. Thanks, Dennis - that knob is on the end of a needle valve that controls a
    bypass passage around the throttle plate. That passage is also one of the
    most troublesome areas of the throttle body when it gets gunked up.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Jul 11, 2006
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  5. I've often noted on my 240 that idle is very improved after the simple
    maintenance of cleaning the gunk from the throttle body. The gunk prevents
    the valve from complete return to closed position, allowing too much air
    intake at idle and causing a too lean/poor idle condition. Remember to
    clean out the pin-point sized valve openings in the throttle body while
    you're at it.

    If this does not improve your idle, you've only lost about 30 minutes to 1
    hour.

    While you're at it, remember to clean the flame trap in the nearby vicinity.
    I don't know if this can affect idle, but it can affect engine seals, and it
    is easy to take care of whenever you do routine maintenance to clean your
    throttle body.
     
    Pat Quadlander, Jul 11, 2006
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  6. Dennis

    Alex Zepeda Guest

    No, the two AMMs are not compatible. The reason your car is idling better
    is because it's idling at 3000 RPM. I'd start checking for some big
    vacuum leaks.
     
    Alex Zepeda, Jul 12, 2006
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  7. Dennis

    Glenn Guest

    No the MAF Sensors are not interchangeable on the sensor out of the 88
    car there is a small round seal plug for adjusting the CO as on the 89
    there is not if you are near any junk yards you might find a used one
    place a Ohm Meter between pins 2&6 turn the screw very slowly the range
    goes from 0-1000 0=full lean & 1000= full rich set to 700 Ohms
    Glenn

    --
    "*-344-*Never Forgotten"
    Is for the New York City Firemen who lost their lives on September 11,2001.
    The official count is 343, but there was also a volunteer who lost his life
    aiding in the initial rescue efforts. And I will never forget them as
    long as I live,
    nor should any American.
     
    Glenn, Jul 13, 2006
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