I killed my wife's Volvo (was Fault Code Question)

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Tim McNamara, Feb 11, 2007.

  1. Tim McNamara

    Tim McNamara Guest

    Chapter 16 in "Tales of a Hamfist"

    Well, it finally being warm enough to het under the hood of my wife's
    1993 Volvo 245, I decided to have at the problem causing the check
    engine light. I checked the codes again- 3-2-2 and 1-1-3. It ran fine.
    I unplugged and replugged the AMM plug the requisite 10 times. Took it
    for a drive, it ran fine (except there is a separate issue to discuss
    sometime). Tried the Seras auto department for contact cleaner and
    dielectric grease. No go. Went home and checked the codes again. This
    time no "check engine" light. Still got the 3-2-2 but not the 1-1-3.
    So far so good.

    Ah, if only I'd have left well enough alone. But I didn't. Dang.

    Looking at the AMM plug again, I thought to myself, "you know, that does
    look a little corroded in there." So I sticks in a metal probe in the
    first socket to try to clean it. Unfortunately the ignition key was
    still in the "on" position (did I mention "hamfist?"). A little puff of
    smoke and some heat in the probe rewards me for my troubles. Uh-oh. I
    fried something. There's a bit of a fried smell inside the car, too. I
    don't see any blown fuses.

    Now the car don't start. Turns over nice, but it don't start. And
    interesting to say, the "Check Engine" light doesn't come on when I turn
    the key to (attempt to) start the car.

    So. What did I **** up? And how do I fix it? Or do I just tow it over
    to my usual mechanic (who is fortunately four blocks away) and let
    someone who knows WTF they are doing take care of it?

    D'oh! My wife is not pleased with Tim, o no, precious, not at all
    pleased.
     
    Tim McNamara, Feb 11, 2007
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    James Sweet Guest


    My guess is you blew up the ECU. It's in the right-hand side footwell
    behind the panel just in front of the door. It's a silver box that says
    JetTronic on it, pull it out and sniff it, if it smells like burning
    electronics you found the problem. At that point you can start calling
    junkyards and try to locate a replacement, it needs to be the same
    version so I think '90-'93 240 or 740 of around the same year. Someone
    else can confirm that part though as it's newer than anything I have.
     
    James Sweet, Feb 11, 2007
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  3. I agree with James - likely to be the ECU. Expect to pay about $100 US for a
    replacement with a 30 day warranty at a they-pull-it wrecking yard. If it
    works 30 days it should work forever.

    However, if the Check Engine light doesn't come on when you first turn the
    ignition switch to the "run" position (that sounds like what you are saying)
    I'd investigate whether the ECU is getting power. I suspect you have
    carefully checked the fuses, but the power may come from a fuse that is not
    in the fuse block. Anybody with a 240 diagram help poor Tim out with that
    part?

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Feb 11, 2007
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  4. Tim McNamara

    Tim McNamara Guest

    James and Michael-

    Thank you so much for your nearly instantaneous responses. I went out
    to the car and pulled the kick panel to look at the ECU. It smelled
    like... nothing. Huh.

    So then I looked at the fuse block again, as per Michael's suggestion.
    Every fuse was fine. Huh. Then I noticed at the bottom of the fuse
    cover panel it said something about four other fuses- A/C, ignition,
    main and something else. That jogged my memory and I recalled that my
    wife's car has a block of fuses next to the battery. I looked in there
    and the first two fuses were fine, but the main (30A) was blown. Aha!
    I pulled the other ones to check them, and found that the A/C fuse and
    the one next to it were fine, but the ignition (60A) was charred at the
    base. I replaced the ignition and the main fuses and the car starts.
    My wife is happy with me again. Whew! Let's hear it for the gal or guy
    that invented the fuse.

    None of this has solved the 3-2-2 code that started all this, but the
    "Check Engine" light now comes up as it should when starting and then
    goes off as it should. How big a deal is the AMM burnoff? Of course, I
    forgot to buy contact cleaner and dielectric grease when I was at the
    auto parts store buying fuses. D'oh! A hamfist *and* forgetful!

    Thanks again. This newsgroup rocks.
     
    Tim McNamara, Feb 11, 2007
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    Glenn Guest

    If I remember I will bring the code book home & enlighten you to what
    322 exactly is & how to correct this code
    Glenn K
    Volvo Certified Technician
    ASE Certified Technician

    --
    "*-344-*Never Forgotten"
    Is for the New York City Firemen who lost their lives on September 11,2001.
    The official count is 343, but there was also a volunteer who lost his life
    aiding in the initial rescue efforts. And I will never forget them as
    long as I live,
    nor should any American.
     
    Glenn, Feb 11, 2007
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  6. Tim McNamara

    Tim McNamara Guest

    If I remember I will bring the code book home & enlighten you to what
    322 exactly is & how to correct this code[/QUOTE]

    3-2-2 is the AMM burnoff code, indicating that the wire in the AMM isn't
    being heated after the engine is shut off.

    Any help is appreciated!
     
    Tim McNamara, Feb 12, 2007
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    John Horner Guest

    3-2-2 is the AMM burnoff code, indicating that the wire in the AMM isn't
    being heated after the engine is shut off.

    Any help is appreciated![/QUOTE]

    The most likely thing is that the AMM has failed. Often the thermostat
    in the air filter box which controls the heated input from the little
    "stove" above the exhaust manifold fails in the hot position. Then the
    AMM is ruined by always being fed hot air, and fuel economy suffers as
    well.

    John
     
    John Horner, Feb 18, 2007
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  8. Tim McNamara

    Tim McNamara Guest

    That's certainly a possibility. The explanations I have found for the
    3-2-2 code includes several possibilities, such as a broken wire in the
    AMM wiring harness. The AMM is expensive but easy to replace. The
    wiring harness is cheaper but harder to replace. Kind of a trade-off.

    I have not investigated the airbox thermostat yet, but I know it's at
    least two years old- since that's how long she has owned the car- but it
    may well be 13 years old. It's been too cold to conveniently work on
    the car. I should probably replace it just on general principle.

    Thus far the check engine light remains off after clearing the two codes
    (3-2-2 and 1-1-3). Driveability remains fine.
     
    Tim McNamara, Feb 18, 2007
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