Is my O2 sensor broken?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by han_chung, Mar 22, 2006.

  1. han_chung

    han_chung Guest

    Hi,

    I have a 1997 Volvo 850 CD with 124,000kms on the clock.

    Here's a bit of history. The car started producing a
    rattly/diesel-like engine sound whenever I accelerated. Took it to the
    mechanic who replaced the catalytic converter. The old one was
    breaking up apparently, and this solved the rattly/diesel-like engine
    noise. It was also at this time they discovered the oil was alarmingly
    low (had not been topped up for 10000kms) - my fault for not realising
    it consumed oil! Then, went on a 4000km roundtrip and topped up 0.5L
    of 15/40W Castrol oil every 500kms. Car was great for most of the
    trip, but by the time we got back, the car was very, very slow and
    shaking when moving from stationary. Once it got into about 2nd/3rd
    gear, it drove fine. Took it to the mechanic who discovered one of the
    relays to the engine had gone, and after replacing that, the
    acceleration has been back to normal. Then had to change the timing
    belt through regular wear and tear.

    My problem now is that the fuel consumption has been, at least for the
    18,000kms I have owned the car, very, VERY bad. I had a previous post
    on this, but just to recap, in 80% city driving, I am getting:

    14.6L / 100km
    16mpg (US gallons)
    19.3mpg (Europe)

    There has also been blue smoke coming from the exhaust only when
    accelerating shortly after the engine has been idle for a minute or so.
    This only started shortly after the timing belt change. When at
    cruising speed, there's no _noticeable_ smoke coming from the exhaust.

    So this leads me to the question: Is my O2 sensor broken? Is there
    anything else likely to be causing the blue smoke and the poor fuel
    economy?

    Regards,

    Han.
     
    han_chung, Mar 22, 2006
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  2. han_chung

    Henry Guest

    As with your fuel consumption, the need to add so much oil is _very_
    bad.

    Oil consumption often points to bad rings. Have you done a compression
    check?

    Since 124 000 km is _nothing_ for this car, it may be that the previous
    owner(s) abused it.

    Good luck.

    cheers,

    Henry
     
    Henry, Mar 22, 2006
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  3. han_chung

    AJS Guest

    Burning that much oil would probably kill both the cat and O2 sensor BUT
    what's causing the oil to be lost?
    That's the big issue. There IS something wrong with your car. It could be a
    simple maintenance item or it could be excessive engine wear (from abuse).
    IF that turns out to be the case then you can probably find a good
    second-hand motor for not too much cash depending on your location.


    AJS
     
    AJS, Mar 22, 2006
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  4. han_chung

    Gary Heston Guest

    There's your clue; whoever swapped the belt missed by a notch on one
    of the pulleys. You need to pull the cover off and check the marks on
    the belt against the marks on the pulleys; find the one that doesn't
    line up and correct it.


    Gary
     
    Gary Heston, Mar 23, 2006
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  5. han_chung

    han_chung Guest

    Hi Gary,

    Thanks for your response. Why does a misplaced timing belt cause blue
    smoke and only after the car has been idle for a minute or so?

    Regards,

    Han.
     
    han_chung, Mar 23, 2006
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  6. han_chung

    Gary Heston Guest

    Throwing the timing off can cause the cylinders to fire before the valves
    are open, causing excessive blowby. This would force oil through the PCV
    system, which will be burned off during cruising but could accumulate at
    idle. When starting out, this excess would be burned off, causing blue
    smoke.

    If the cylinders are firing a bit late, there would be a slight loss in
    power, causing greater fuel consumption in normal driving. In any case,
    the fact that the problem appeared after a timing belt change indicates
    that theres' something wrong with the timing belt installation.


    Gary
     
    Gary Heston, Mar 24, 2006
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  7. han_chung

    han_chung Guest

    Hi Gary,

    I should also mention that since the timing belt change, there has been
    the occasional repetitive squeak, it seems, everytime the belt spins a
    revolution. It tends to come and go, and sometimes is audible inside
    the car itself, and will happen whether the car is idle or
    accellerating. The noise appears to be coming from the vicinity of the
    timing belt.

    In terms of fuel consumption, I have not noticed a drop, but I also did
    have catalytic converter problems (now replaced) before the timing belt
    change.

    In light of all this, does this make your "misfiring cylinders"
    hypothesis even more likely?

    Regards,

    Han.
     
    han_chung, Mar 24, 2006
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  8. han_chung

    User Guest

    The squeak is probablly from either the tensioner pulley or the idler
    pulley. You should change them very soon before one or the other
    bearings seize then all the other questions about the motor will be
    moot.

    Bob
     
    User, Mar 24, 2006
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  9. Translation: it will all be over except the crying.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Mar 24, 2006
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