Low mileage, poor performance

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by c.fiedler, Jan 17, 2007.

  1. c.fiedler

    c.fiedler Guest

    Recently someone posted about a 240 with both poor performance and
    poor mileage. I think the post was with reference to an '89 model.
    Total mileage was not mentioned, at least in what I saw.

    Well, I've not seen this happen personally but an '89 is getting to
    the point where the catastrophic converter might be buggered up.

    The 'Net has sources for converters so, if you've tried everything
    else, it's probably gotten to converter time.

    Chuck Fiedler
    Nothing but Volvo since 1974
    Currently a '93 240 and a '97 850
     
    c.fiedler, Jan 17, 2007
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    Gary Heston Guest

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    Heavens! That might be catalytic!


    Gary
     
    Gary Heston, Jan 17, 2007
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  3. The Haynes manual (of all things!) for my daughter's Honda has a nice way of
    checking for a blocked cataclysmic converter. <8^P It uses a manifold
    pressure to view the effects of the engine not being able to exhale. The
    guage is hooked up, the engine started and the idle reading noted. The
    engine is run up to about 2000 rpm for a few seconds and then the throttle
    is released. The guage should return to the idle reading within two seconds.
    If it hangs at the high reading for a moment or takes a long time to return
    to the idle reading it points to an exhaust blockage.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Jan 17, 2007
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  4. c.fiedler

    L.J. :) Guest


    I'm the gal who posted that original request to which you are
    referring. Total mileage is 125,000.

    The catastrophic converter has just been changed, in this effort to
    raise mpg. And at the cataclysmic price of $200. That does include
    the O2 sensor and a couple of clamps to hold it all on. I did the work
    myself to save labor charges. The volvo mechanic, who was suggesting
    this, didn't think the converter was original oem equipment, so it may
    have been done around 60K, and still have been time for another. MPG
    did go up to 16mpg. And power improved by a small but noticeable
    amount. Like about a 5mph gear shift improvement. I am still having
    to rev high before changing to a higher gear, in order to keep from
    lugging the engine in the initial push in the new gear. v Can't even
    use fifth gear unless going 65mph. Speedo (and hopefully odometer) is
    accurate in that it takes exactly 60 seconds to go one measured mile on
    the interstate.

    Thanks Chuck for the idea, tho and also thanks to Gary and Michael for
    responding.

    I'm thinking something along the lines of fuel, fuel rail, or
    pressure or injectors. Idle rpm is a little high. Does my car have
    this 'power stage' that the groups are referring to when they say there
    is a connector on the fender.? And just what is that, if it does.
    .... '89 245 DL ver 2.4 computer, no turbo, M47 transmission.
    Compression all within 10% of each other.
    Lesley.
     
    L.J. :), Jan 18, 2007
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    James Sweet Guest


    Did you try swapping the air mass meter? That's a common failure and
    will cause the fuel economy to plummet. You should be getting at least
    25 mpg.
     
    James Sweet, Jan 18, 2007
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    Roadie Guest

    Yes, the chaotic converter has been known to run in circles and
    eventually become cataleptic when honeycomb construction no longer
    catalyzes.
     
    Roadie, Jan 18, 2007
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    zoltamatron Guest

    I assume that you have already replaced the fuel filter and checked the
    fuel pressure? Low power is usually caused by insufficient fuel to the
    engine, most commonly by a plugged fuel filter. If it idles okay but
    has no power then it sounds like there is too much resistance in the
    fuel filter so the fuel pump can only create enough pressure at a low
    flow (idle speed). Have you checked the timing? Replaced the plugs
    and wires? Sometimes plug wires that are very old will short out when
    the engine is under load, but not when at idle. The high vacuum in the
    combustion chamber when at idle creates less resistance at the spark
    plug gap. A good check for this is to rev the engine and look at the
    spark plug connections near the exhaust manifold in the dark. If you
    see any blue flashes, you should replace the plugs and the wires.
     
    zoltamatron, Jan 19, 2007
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