oil and water don't mix!

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Rachel, May 23, 2004.

  1. Rachel

    Rachel Guest

    Hi folks,

    I haven't posted here before, but I'm not currently a Volvo owner! All this
    is set to change. I'm looking at getting a second-hand Volvo estate, V40 or
    V70 something like that.

    I live on an island and am not spoiled for choice in terms of dealerships or
    even private sale.

    However, I've found one around the right price - a 1998 V40 1.9TD for around
    £3500 GBP (around 6,251 USD)

    Car looked in good order except for oil in the expansion bottle. I was
    immediately suspicious of this and they said they'd have their garage look
    at it and get back to me (a friend had suggested it may be a faulty oil
    cooler and that whatever it was I should definitely be sure it was OK before
    buying).

    They got back to me just now and their garage didn't do anything to the car.
    They said:
    "It's OK, the Oil was just around the top of the expansion bottle (it looked
    pretty messy when we saw it)"
    "the oil cooler is fine - they'd have known very quickly if anything was
    wrong with it"
    and
    "oil and water run round the engine in a diesel, it's not like a petrol
    engine you know"

    I smell a rat. Is this a common problem with this power plant (it's the
    Renault Laguna diesel engine isn't it?), and not to worry about or could it
    be something serious - a cracked head or block for instance?

    Please help. If we can find a good Volvo that doesn't give us endless grief,
    I promise to not be lurker and visit more often :)

    Rachel

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    Rachel, May 23, 2004
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  2. Rachel wrote:

    Walk away from this one. This is utter nonsense.

    At no point should oil and water meet. If there is oil in the water,
    and it is not a leaky oil cooler, then it is a blown head gasket at
    best, possibly a warped head. It could even be a crack in the head or
    block. The only way to establish which is to take the head off the
    engine.
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    Stewart Hargrave


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    Stewart Hargrave, May 23, 2004
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  3. The whole thing sounds suspicious and that last statement sounds
    ridiculous. Before you even consider buying the car, you would
    need to get an inspection report directly from a reputable expert.
     
    L David Matheny, May 24, 2004
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  4. Rachel

    Ian Pellew Guest

    Hi all;

    I have had this on two seperate Volvos I have owned.
    In each case the transmission is automatic.
    Volvo have a weakness in the way they connect the Auto gear box oil
    cooler to the engaine radiator.
    In each case the I have chnaged the raditor and solved the problem.
    In the last case (my 960) I forgot to change the transmission oil and
    lost the box. So I had to replace the gear box!

    If the car is an Auto and you want the car then my money is on a new
    rad, which is about £250 if you do it. Its quite simple, you just need
    a nice days wheather. New rad and a galon of Auto Gear Box oil, and
    some patience in filing the gear box through the level pipe.

    Regards
    Ian
     
    Ian Pellew, May 24, 2004
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  5. Rachel

    Randy G. Guest

    It is not really a "weakness" to put the tranny cooler in the
    radiator. It is a common procaticve in the auto industry. The weakness
    comes from the Volvo cooler being a POS.

    Oil in the overflow tank not only means that there was a problem with
    the cooling sustem, but could mean the car will soon need a tranny
    rebuild because of water in the tranny fluid..

    Pass on this one and give those mechanics a page from the phone
    diorectory of auto technician schools becasue they seem to know little
    about cars. Then report them to the authorities.

    Ask them for a 1 year 15,000km warranty and watch their attitude
    change. from Randy & Valerie
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    Randy G., May 25, 2004
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