OPINION:Quality and Passion Declining in European Automakers

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by CaptainW116, Aug 2, 2005.

  1. I think you mean in the front seat of the Buick...
     
    Martin Joseph, Aug 5, 2005
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    Guy King Guest

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    I went to the cinema yesterday. There was a poster up advertising
    vacancies, and included at the bottom was a list of attributes they'd
    like in a toilet cleaner. And yes "A passion for films" was there on the
    list.

    I'd have thought a passion for cleaning the bogs would be more useful.
     
    Guy King, Aug 5, 2005
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    Guy King Guest

    The message <ecCIe.182838$tt5.107520@edtnps90>
    Mine's got a cupholder. I pass the cup to the wife and say "Hold that".
     
    Guy King, Aug 5, 2005
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  4. LMAO

    Wolfgang
     
    Wolfgang Pawlinetz, Aug 5, 2005
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  5. Unfortunately, you might have just confirmed one: driving at 75mph, while
    unable to see anything but a 1 litre bottle of water. I'll bow to your
    superior knowledge about crash survivability of European cars... ;o)

    On the hydration front, I personally find a Camelbak much easier - just hang
    it from the head restraint mounts.

    --

    Hairy One Kenobi

    Disclaimer: the opinions expressed in this opinion do not necessarily
    reflect the opinions of the highly-opinionated person expressing the opinion
    in the first place. So there!
     
    Hairy One Kenobi, Aug 5, 2005
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  6. Getting OT, visitors to Arizona too often die because they don't feel bad.
    Dehydration leads to heat stroke - a visiting Briton died of heat stroke in
    the Grand Canyon about a week ago apparently because it wasn't very hot and
    he thought there would be some warning. There is none at all. Our retired
    unit secretary was walking home from her overheated car when heat stroke got
    her. She reported she was striding along, "feeling great" as she described
    it, and the next thing she knew she was in the bathtub and her husband was
    filling it with cold water. She was lucky - a few years ago in Phoenix a
    bicyclist was talking to EMTs because he was weak and cramping, then heat
    stroke set in. The EMTs couldn't save him even though they were right there
    when it started.

    The effects of dehydration are worst outside the car, but the dehydration
    itself often comes from not keeping up while in the car. Changing a flat
    tire when already dehydrated is bad news. If you are coming to arid country
    learn the cardinal rules of survival: drink before you are thirsty, and stay
    in the shade as much as possible. You can live without A/C (I didn't use it
    when the temp was 50C about 5 years ago), but dehydration will kill you in
    minutes without warning. You don't need a cupholder if you use bottled
    water, but not drinking is inviting sudden death.

    Mike (a desert rat for 34 years)
     
    Michael Pardee, Aug 5, 2005
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    Tom K. Guest

    And how does a liter bottle in a Z4 holder obstruct vision?

    Tom
     
    Tom K., Aug 5, 2005
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    BBO Guest

    Michael Pardee wrote:

    You can live without A/C (I didn't use it
    Slight warp of thread: Same goes for the windchill factor. A lot of
    people doesn't appreciate how cold it really is before it is too late. A
    useful demonstration might be to hold a piece of raw meat into the wind
    and show people how fast it deepfreezes....
     
    BBO, Aug 5, 2005
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    JD Guest

    Isn't English a strange language -- you can string two 'had had''s together
    and have it make sense.

    M
     
    JD, Aug 5, 2005
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    gcmschemist Guest

    LOL.

    That's the way I do it, too. If I'm alone, I just don't drink anything
    until I stop for fuel, or to off-load what I drank before. :)

    Maybe it's because I never feel comfortable doing anything but
    *driving* when I'm behind the wheel. Eating, drinking, reading,
    chatting on the cell, shaving, etc. - I'll leave all that to other
    folks.

    I know, it's weird to hear that from an American. But I guess I'm
    weird in actually enjoying the driving. Maybe if I had a Honda or a
    Toyota, I'd be so bored as to need to do something else while driving,
    just to stay awake.

    E.P. "Cupholders? We don't need no steenkeeng cupholders..."
     
    gcmschemist, Aug 5, 2005
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  11. But not aft
     
    Kalman Rubinson, Aug 5, 2005
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  12. When you drink it.
     
    Martin Joseph, Aug 5, 2005
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    Rick Brandt Guest

    Straw
     
    Rick Brandt, Aug 5, 2005
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    Tom K. Guest

    Only if you forget to slightly rotate your head.
     
    Tom K., Aug 5, 2005
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    Guy King Guest

    The message <7ZLIe.7595$p%>
    Ann, while Bob had had "had", had had "had had". "Had had" had had a
    better effect on the teacher.
     
    Guy King, Aug 5, 2005
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    Guy King Guest

    The message <2005080509495816807%mercedes@barknaturalpetcom>
    Makes you wonder how Jimmy Durante or Jamie Farr (Corporal Klinger) managed.
     
    Guy King, Aug 5, 2005
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    CaptainW116 Guest

    CaptainW116, Aug 5, 2005
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  18. ROTFL .... the main complaint my wife has re our 300E :)

    guenter
     
    Guenter Scholz, Aug 6, 2005
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    WS Guest

    But had had had not made sense, what then? ;-)

    Cheers,
    WS
     
    WS, Aug 6, 2005
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  20. In the UK the Merc-owned garages in the metro areas (London, Birmingham,
    Manchester) are offering free MoT tests (the annual compulsory
    roadworthiness test for cars 3+ years old). This year did our 2001 CLK Cab
    and 1993 190E. The 15-min drive is well worth it, and it's done while you
    wait if you ask for an appointment. In my case (Park Royal, West London) it
    is not actually done by Merc but by a nearby official test station, so I
    went straight there.

    Saves GBP 41/USD 70...

    Great wheeze to drag clients back from the independents. Last year an
    independent charged me -- for the 190E -- the mandatory test fee plus GBP 20
    (USD 35) labour that was never properly specified.

    In the UK I think Merc has recognised the workshop problem and is doing
    something about it, though I have personally never experienced sustained
    dire service in all the years I have had Mercs.

    DAS

    For direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling
    ---

    [....]
     
    Dori A Schmetterling, Aug 6, 2005
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