OPINION:Quality and Passion Declining in European Automakers

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Passion?

My guess is that you will get more passion
from your girfriend in the back of a Maybach
versus anything made elsewhere.

This is not a trivial criteria.

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I think you mean in the front seat of the Buick...
 
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Passion?
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My guess is that you will get more passion
from your girfriend in the back of a Maybach
versus anything made elsewhere.
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I went to the cinema yesterday. There was a poster up advertising
vacancies, and included at the bottom was a list of attributes they'd
like in a toilet cleaner. And yes "A passion for films" was there on the
list.

I'd have thought a passion for cleaning the bogs would be more useful.
 
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from "cp said:
Don't know; of the 7 cars I've had I've just realized only one had a
cup holder, don't remember using it.
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Mine's got a cupholder. I pass the cup to the wife and say "Hold that".
 
Tom K. said:
Having just returned from a trip which included nearly 1,000 miles of
prairie and desert driving with temperatures exceeding 105o F and humidity
levels in the 10% range, I'd say you really don't know what you are talking
about. One can seriously dehydrate in as little as 20 minutes under these
conditions. Although admittedly somewhat flimsy, my BMW Z4's cupholders kept
our liter bottles of water cool (right in front of an A/C outlet) and
convenient - as I really don't like searching under my seat for water while
driving at 75 mph. And they are designed to completely retract into the
dash when not needed.

Maybe you should travel in the U.S. before making assumptions about the
habits of American drivers.
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Unfortunately, you might have just confirmed one: driving at 75mph, while
unable to see anything but a 1 litre bottle of water. I'll bow to your
superior knowledge about crash survivability of European cars... ;o)

On the hydration front, I personally find a Camelbak much easier - just hang
it from the head restraint mounts.

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Hairy One Kenobi

Disclaimer: the opinions expressed in this opinion do not necessarily
reflect the opinions of the highly-opinionated person expressing the opinion
in the first place. So there!
 
cp said:
You gotta be kidding! That's news to me in my experience! Heck, my brother
crossed Death Valley in the daytime a couple of times, NO AC, just some
water, but then we're made of sterner stuff.
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Getting OT, visitors to Arizona too often die because they don't feel bad.
Dehydration leads to heat stroke - a visiting Briton died of heat stroke in
the Grand Canyon about a week ago apparently because it wasn't very hot and
he thought there would be some warning. There is none at all. Our retired
unit secretary was walking home from her overheated car when heat stroke got
her. She reported she was striding along, "feeling great" as she described
it, and the next thing she knew she was in the bathtub and her husband was
filling it with cold water. She was lucky - a few years ago in Phoenix a
bicyclist was talking to EMTs because he was weak and cramping, then heat
stroke set in. The EMTs couldn't save him even though they were right there
when it started.

The effects of dehydration are worst outside the car, but the dehydration
itself often comes from not keeping up while in the car. Changing a flat
tire when already dehydrated is bad news. If you are coming to arid country
learn the cardinal rules of survival: drink before you are thirsty, and stay
in the shade as much as possible. You can live without A/C (I didn't use it
when the temp was 50C about 5 years ago), but dehydration will kill you in
minutes without warning. You don't need a cupholder if you use bottled
water, but not drinking is inviting sudden death.

Mike (a desert rat for 34 years)
 
Hairy One Kenobi said:
Unfortunately, you might have just confirmed one: driving at 75mph, while
unable to see anything but a 1 litre bottle of water. I'll bow to your
superior knowledge about crash survivability of European cars... ;o)
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And how does a liter bottle in a Z4 holder obstruct vision?

Tom
 
Michael Pardee wrote:

You can live without A/C (I didn't use it
when the temp was 50C about 5 years ago), but dehydration will kill you in
minutes without warning. You don't need a cupholder if you use bottled
water, but not drinking is inviting sudden death.
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Slight warp of thread: Same goes for the windchill factor. A lot of
people doesn't appreciate how cold it really is before it is too late. A
useful demonstration might be to hold a piece of raw meat into the wind
and show people how fast it deepfreezes....
 
Come to think of it, only one of the 7 cars I've had had a cup holder and I
don't remember ever using them. <snip>
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Isn't English a strange language -- you can string two 'had had''s together
and have it make sense.

M
 
Guy said:
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Mine's got a cupholder. I pass the cup to the wife and say "Hold that".
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LOL.

That's the way I do it, too. If I'm alone, I just don't drink anything
until I stop for fuel, or to off-load what I drank before. :)

Maybe it's because I never feel comfortable doing anything but
*driving* when I'm behind the wheel. Eating, drinking, reading,
chatting on the cell, shaving, etc. - I'll leave all that to other
folks.

I know, it's weird to hear that from an American. But I guess I'm
weird in actually enjoying the driving. Maybe if I had a Honda or a
Toyota, I'd be so bored as to need to do something else while driving,
just to stay awake.

E.P. "Cupholders? We don't need no steenkeeng cupholders..."
 
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from "JD said:
Isn't English a strange language -- you can string two 'had had''s
together
and have it make sense.
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Ann, while Bob had had "had", had had "had had". "Had had" had had a
better effect on the teacher.
 
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When you drink it.
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Makes you wonder how Jimmy Durante or Jamie Farr (Corporal Klinger) managed.
 
In the UK the Merc-owned garages in the metro areas (London, Birmingham,
Manchester) are offering free MoT tests (the annual compulsory
roadworthiness test for cars 3+ years old). This year did our 2001 CLK Cab
and 1993 190E. The 15-min drive is well worth it, and it's done while you
wait if you ask for an appointment. In my case (Park Royal, West London) it
is not actually done by Merc but by a nearby official test station, so I
went straight there.

Saves GBP 41/USD 70...

Great wheeze to drag clients back from the independents. Last year an
independent charged me -- for the 190E -- the mandatory test fee plus GBP 20
(USD 35) labour that was never properly specified.

In the UK I think Merc has recognised the workshop problem and is doing
something about it, though I have personally never experienced sustained
dire service in all the years I have had Mercs.

DAS

For direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling
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Class 1 said:
Interesting topic - my views:

Mercedes - Quality atrocious, plasticky, nasty, V6s instead of I6s,
etc. Where's the quality engineering gone FFS?! The last true Mercedes
were built in the early 90s. The only Mercedes currently even remotely
desirable as a private buy is the SL, but then you still have to deal
with the truly dire Mercedes garages.
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