Poor quality bushings, or bad track rod?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by at, Apr 15, 2004.

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    at Guest

    I have a 240 wagon, and I'm doing all 10 of my rear bushings. Today, I
    had rubber bushings that I had ordered from FCP Groton pressed into my
    Panhard rod and right trailing arm. Upon getting the rod back to my
    garage, I accidently dropped it a foot or so. Imagine my surprise when
    the bushing with the bigger hole popped partially out! When I held the
    rod up to the light, I could see a 1/2mm or so gap in places between the
    bushings and the inside bore of the rod ends. Tapping lightly on the
    bushings with the plastic end of a screwdriver moved them in and out.
    What's worst is that I could see light between one bushing's rubber and
    its inner shell. Furthermore, when I tighten a bolt and nut across
    either of the two bushings, I can spin it in the rod.

    Are the bushings sold by FCP Groton just complete shite (as I suspect -
    are they ScanTech, maybe?) or did the mechanic somehow screw up when
    pressing them in and stretch out the rod ends? The one trailing arm
    bushing that I've had done so far is fine, and flexes rather than
    spinning in it's bore when the inner shell is turned using a bolt and
    nut tightened across it.

    TIA, -bosozoku (frustrated)
     
    at, Apr 15, 2004
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    Mike F Guest

    I'd say poor quality bushings. It would be very hard to stretch out the
    end of the panhard rod without distorting it.

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    Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont.

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    Mike F, Apr 15, 2004
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    Alex Zepeda Guest

    It depends on which ones you bought. Anything branded ScanTech or MTC is
    almost guaranteed to be crap. If it weren't raining I'd go out and check
    the (MTC) transmission mount that I installed about 1000 miles ago... and
    it already feels like it's toasted.

    FCP usually sells three types of bushings: cheap knockoffs (ScanTech,
    MTC), OEM, and polyurethane replacement (SuperPro, etc). The cheap
    knockoffs are the ones to avoid. Check out Dave Shannon's page for an
    example of just how short lived the cheap RTA bushings are.
     
    Alex Zepeda, Apr 19, 2004
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    Necromancer Guest

    Amazing enough, I too have replaced the pan hard rod (track rod) bushing as
    well as all other bushings in the read end of my 1996 240 wagon purchased
    from FP Groton. The passenger side trackrod lasted about 5 months and
    needed replacement again. My mechanic replaced it with a volvo oem part
    and once again, after 6 months it needs replaced again.
    I had a different mechanic look at it this time but couldn't find any
    other reason why it would be wearing out so soon.
    I'm not sure if anyone will read this but if you do are there any reason
    that you could think of?
    THanks in advance.
     
    Necromancer, May 4, 2004
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    G Klein Guest

    Have your mechanics check the trailing arm bushings if they are bad they
    will cause the track rod bushings to fail prematurely

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    G Klein, May 4, 2004
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    Mike F Guest

    Also, if the bolt for any suspension part is tightened up on the hoist,
    with the suspension at full droop, the bushings will be stressed in the
    normal position. The final tightening needs to be done on a wheel lift
    hoist, so the suspension is sitting in the normal position.

    --
    Mike F.
    Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont.

    NOTE: new address!!
    Replace tt with t (twice!) and remove parentheses to email me directly.
    (But I check the newsgroup more often than this email address.)
     
    Mike F, May 4, 2004
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