Question for 850 owners - Brakes versus Radio.

Discussion in 'Volvo 850' started by SilverSurfer, Oct 15, 2007.

  1. SilverSurfer

    SilverSurfer Guest

    Good morning,
    Occasionaly my radio loses power when I apply the brakes on my 1996 850
    turbo. Has anyone else experienced this problem. Is there a simple
    solution.

    Apperciate any help or ideas, Thank-you

    Kirk R.
     
    SilverSurfer, Oct 15, 2007
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  2. SilverSurfer

    Roadie Guest

    Well, the simple solution is to fix whatever is causing the
    intermittent break in power.

    My guess is that there is either a power or ground wire that is all
    but broken or a connector that is very dirty or about to come apart.
    Work backwards from the radio and start jiggling wires and
    connectors.
     
    Roadie, Oct 15, 2007
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  3. SilverSurfer

    James Sweet Guest



    That's a new one. First thing I'd do is pull each fuse and check for
    corrosion, scrubbing off any you find. Next I'd start looking for a loose or
    corroded chassis ground. Bad grounding can cause all sorts of electrical
    weirdness. I'm not intimately familiar with the 850 series but perhaps the
    radio is grounded to something near the brake pedal and the mechanical
    flexing when you apply the brakes opens the connection.
     
    James Sweet, Oct 15, 2007
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  4. Yes, but not related with brakes.
    It's related with the engine revolutions and the alternator
    tension regulator, I presume, when there is a decceleration
    of engine revolutions, around 1500 RPM.
    It only happens with the radio, not the CD.

    Forget it.
    I presume it's a tension regulation on the alternator, but
    the tension regulator is fine.
    The problem remains for Years (always).
    Most certainly it's a radio problem due to its features
    of radio interference suppressions.
     
    JM Albuquerque, Oct 15, 2007
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  5. SilverSurfer

    Mystical Guest

    Hi,
    SOME Volvo radios have a noise feature that raises and lowers the
    volume depending on the speed of the car. This feature can be turned off
    and on as you wish. Could this be your problem?
    Does the radio turn clear off or just drop in volume?
    Good luck, Brad
     
    Mystical, Oct 15, 2007
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  6. Nope.
    But those "radios" have a great sound, very loud and
    very good.
    The radio turns clear, goes off signal, no volume, zero.
    Never happens with the heads light on, at night for instance.
    It's a voltage problem, when there's a voltage drop due
    to low engine reverses.
    For instance, 12 volts stopped. Then 13 Volts iddling
    and increasing up to 13.8V at 1,500-1,700 RPM, then
    keeps 13.8V. The radio doesn't like that, or there is a
    problem with the voltage regulator around 1,600 RPM.
     
    JM Albuquerque, Oct 16, 2007
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  7. SilverSurfer

    James Sweet Guest

    I really doubt it's a voltage problem. The radio should work fine down to
    about 9V at which point the lights would be so dim you could hardly see, and
    the problem would be worse with the headlights on.
     
    James Sweet, Oct 16, 2007
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  8. Yes, would be worse with the headlights on.
    Maybe I use only CD at night. Actually always CD.
    As long the voltage regulator works fine, I don't care about
    the radio.
    But from times to times it happens, always during day light
    as I remember, and at decceleration always. Never noticed
    that brakes could have anything with it, why and how?

    The radio can work fine down to 9V, but the radio doesn't
    like voltage changes, because the radio is fine tunned in
    resonance at a gives frequency, and I bet the LC resonante
    circuit that tunnes the station doesn't like voltage changes,
    because it tunnes automatically, and so on...

    Simply forget the problem, there's nothing to fix.
    Can't have it all.
     
    JM Albuquerque, Oct 16, 2007
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  9. SilverSurfer

    James Sweet Guest

    You can't be serious?

    The radio will have a regulated power supply within it, an automotive
    electrical system is notoriously filthy. Modern radios don't use a tuned LC
    circuit anyway, the tuning will be digitally synthesized.

    I'm betting on a loose connection somewhere, if you say the brakes are not
    related, it's probably the mechanical motion of slowing down.

    There's no way this is a voltage problem though unless the lights are
    dimming severely at the same time.
     
    James Sweet, Oct 16, 2007
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  10. SilverSurfer

    SilverSurfer Guest

    Good morning,
    It has only happened during the day (so far) so I cannot tell you if the
    lights are diming or not. Since it is now happening more often I will pay
    more attention to night driving.

    Kirk R.
     
    SilverSurfer, Oct 16, 2007
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  11. Some trouble shooting advice:

    If the lights in the radio do NOT dim or go out when this happens, then
    it is most likely a problem in the antenna or speakers. The antenna
    could have a loose connection. There may be a broken speaker wire or a
    loose connection. If it hits both speaker at once, it may be the
    speaker ground connection.

    If the lights in the radio dim or go out when this happens, it is most
    likely problem in the power to the radio. It could be in a fuse, a
    ground connection or poor power connection.

    Does it only occur when the car is moving and you are decelerating, or
    does it even occur when the car is just sitting and you apply the brakes.

    If it only occurs when the car is decelerating, then it is probably a
    loose connection.

    If it also occurs when the car is just sitting, then it is probably a
    poor ground connection.

    Most 850 radios have tabs on the side so you can pull the radio out. Do
    this and see if there is any corrosion on any of the contacts. Push it
    in and out several times to see if that helps.
     
    Stephen Henning, Oct 16, 2007
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  12. Digitally synthesized or not, there is a tuned LC circuit somewhere.
    Radio signals are electromagnetic waves that have to be driven
    at resonance at a given frequency. Electronically it can only be
    done by a matched circuit composed by a series inductor and a
    capacitor in resonance, so that "motion" is amplified at that
    specific frequency.

    A seven years old lose connection, even after several radio removals
    to fix the CD in/out system ?

    Can't notice anything on any light, not even on the radio.
    Nothing lose exists, not even the motorised antenna is lose enough
    to be the cause, since it only happens at around 1,600 RPM
    de-accelerating, once in every 10 to 20 times it could happen.

    The problem remains exactly as it was 7 years ago, since I've
    buy the car (850 T5 1996).
     
    JM Albuquerque, Oct 17, 2007
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