Report: Ford, Geely talks over Volvo stumbling

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by sjmmail2000-247, Jan 23, 2010.

  1. Although Ford announced late last year that it had reached an agreement to sell its Volvo unit to China's Zhejiang Geely Holding Group Company Limited, a new report out of Sweden suggests that the talks are not going smoothly. The positive signs given earlier have been exaggerated," Joran Hagglund, state secretary at Sweden's ministry for enterprise, [...]
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    sjmmail2000-247, Jan 23, 2010
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    James Sweet Guest


    Honestly I'd rather they shut down entirely than get sold to China.
     
    James Sweet, Jan 23, 2010
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  3. and then where would we get new Volvos?
     
    Geoff Pearson, Jan 23, 2010
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    James Sweet Guest


    They wouldn't really be Volvos anymore IMO. Nothing Volvo has made since
    about 1995 has interested me, and I never buy new cars anyway. As long
    as I can keep my 240 going I'll be fine.
     
    James Sweet, Jan 23, 2010
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  5. So if we don't buy new cars, why are we concerned about the fate of their
    manufacturers?
     
    Geoff Pearson, Jan 24, 2010
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    GI7B Guest

    We may want to buy a car in 5 years time???


    GI7B
     
    GI7B, Jan 24, 2010
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  7. Simple: I want to be able to buy spares in 2, 3, 5 years time. I also
    like to upgrade/update every few years.

    In 2-4 years time I'll be looking to upgrade, I kind of have my eye on
    the 2010 diesel XC70. But if, at that point, the spare parts will be
    made from Chinese potmetal and break-after-3-weeks plastics, well, I
    dunno. I truly love driving the marque, but I won't make a fool of
    myself.

    No, not overstating the case. To wit: we bought a China made Bosch
    washing machine (unbeknownst to us, ordered from the catalogue in the
    shop, we thought we were buying German) and the plastic started to break
    up within a fortnight, not just ours but also a friend's who bought the
    same model). One notes that Bosch no longer sells washing machines made
    in China in this country at least.

    I'd be prepared to buy a new car, but the depreciation of new Volvos is
    just too high, at least here in NZ: you're losing 50% in the first 2
    years.
    That's a lot of money. I can't quite afford to chuck 50 grand out of the
    window. The 6-year old hasn't lost a cent in value over the last year.

    -P.
     
    Peter Huebner, Jan 24, 2010
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    James Sweet Guest


    All cars start out new at some point. I'll let some other sucker pay the
    depreciation, but realistically I'll have to buy a newer car at some
    point, it's only a matter of time before somebody hits mine or critical
    parts start to get too hard to find.

    It's also just sad to see a unique company I've been loyal to become
    just another brand name. The same thing happened to Saab, they built a
    fantastic and very unique product up until the early 90s at which point
    GM trashed them and recently left for dead. There is so much of that
    these days, just look at all the famous 70s hi-fi names that are now
    simply brands slapped on cheap Chinese junk. It used to be a brand meant
    something, you could buy brand X and know what you were getting, these
    days brands are nothing but marketing, hollow names slapped onto
    products produced by the lowest bidder. You might buy one today that is
    excellent, then buy another next month of the same brand and model only
    to find it falls apart. I know that China is capable of building good
    stuff, but the quality control and consistency are terrible. There are
    so many products that are just utter garbage that flat out don't live up
    to claims and you can rarely tell until you've bought it.
     
    James Sweet, Jan 24, 2010
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    Leftie Guest


    The V40 has just enough of a hint of the P1800ES about it (but not
    as much as the 480ES had) to make me look at it. Just look.
     
    Leftie, Jan 25, 2010
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    Roger Hunt Guest

    I've had my '98 UK V40 2.0i for just coming up four years and must admit
    I am beginning to like it ...
     
    Roger Hunt, Jan 25, 2010
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