Retrofitting A/C to R134 on a '88 240 Wagon

Discussion in 'Volvo 240' started by Jimmy, Aug 10, 2004.

  1. Jimmy

    Jimmy Guest

    My a/c compressor went out on my 240 and I thought it might be a good
    time to retrofit the system. I found a kit on ebay ($25)thats has all
    the washers and rings it says I will need to do the job. Just
    wondering if any other home mechanics out there have done this job?
    Will I need to have the system decompressed by a a/c shop? Am I
    getting in over my head? Any advice or warnings will be appreciated.
    Thanks!
     
    Jimmy, Aug 10, 2004
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  2. Jimmy

    Mike F Guest

    Both the condenser and evaporator are a little small for the job on a
    240, and converting to R134a will make it worse. Volvo sells a kit that
    is quite reasonably priced (believe it or not!) that includes a new
    evaporator, expansion valve, drier, high pressure hose and the orings.
    You're still stuck with the poor condenser, and lack of auxiliary fan,
    but you'll get better results with this kit. If it were my car I
    wouldn't use the oil that comes with the kit (ester oil) that is
    designed to mix with the R12 mineral oil, but PAG oil which is normal
    R134a oil, since there will be so little original oil remaining because
    you're changing so much of the system.

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    Mike F.
    Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont.

    NOTE: new address!!
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    Mike F, Aug 10, 2004
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    Rob Guenther Guest

    Could you bolt in something from a 740/940/960/850 in place? Our 960's A/C
    is quite good, more then up to the challenge of keeping the big car cool.

    I'm thinking this route would be quite a bit of money tho.
     
    Rob Guenther, Aug 10, 2004
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  4. Jimmy

    radietz Guest

    The majority of the refrigerant oil is split between the receiver drier
    and the compressor. Unless you R&R and drain the compressor then flush
    the lines to the condensor, the condensor, the line to the new drier and
    the line from the new evaporator then Ester oil is the ay to go. PAG oil
    and Mineral congeal to make a nasty mess. Its a good idea to pull the
    evaporator loose and blow out the fins good. Most are somewhere between
    seriously and severely clogged.

    Bob
     
    radietz, Aug 11, 2004
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    James Sweet Guest

    Is there any disadvantage to ester oil? I used it and the system works fine.
    You do need access to a vacuum pump to do this job unless you have it
    charged at a shop. As others have said, you'll need a new reciever/dryer,
    orifice tube, and solvent to flush the system.
     
    James Sweet, Aug 11, 2004
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  6. Jimmy

    Mike F Guest

    Anything's possible, but the big problem here is physical
    compatibility. The evaporator is a different shape, mounted in a
    different location and the pipes point in different directions. The 240
    uses an expansion valve and drier on the high pressure side, the later
    ones use an expansion orifice tube with the drier on the low pressure
    side.

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    Mike F.
    Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont.

    NOTE: new address!!
    Replace tt with t (twice!) and remove parentheses to email me directly.
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    Mike F, Aug 11, 2004
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  7. Jimmy

    Mike F Guest

    In this case both parts will be replaced. The new compressor probably
    comes with PAG oil already, which would introduce a 3rd oil. Factor in
    almost everybody (carmakers, compressor manufacturers) except Volvo
    recommends removing as much mineral oil as possible and using PAG for
    retrofits.

    Example, Sanden: http://www.sanden.com/support/RETRO.html

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    Mike F.
    Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont.

    NOTE: new address!!
    Replace tt with t (twice!) and remove parentheses to email me directly.
    (But I check the newsgroup more often than this email address.)
     
    Mike F, Aug 11, 2004
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