Return of the abandoned Volvo

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by James Goforth, Dec 7, 2005.

  1. I posted here last summer about this abandoned Volvo 760 wagon which
    was just sitting in a motel parking lot, unlocked, for about a year and
    a half, pretty good condition, no rust or dents, can't remember how many
    miles but it wasn't bad.
    I tried to get the motel mgr to just let me take it since obviously
    the owner wasn't going to come and get it. But he didn't want to do
    that since it wasn't really in the way where it was sitting.
    I tried contacting the owner by registered letter offering to buy it
    but they never contacted me.
    Drove by the place the other day and it was no longer there, called
    them up and they said the motel has a new mgr and he had it towed.
    Contacted the towing place and they said I could have it for $300.00,
    but it would be up to me to deal with the title transfer and all that,
    as it will still be titled to the original owner.
    There's no key.
    Do you think that car would be worth the $300.00?
    Of course there will likely be things wrong with it just from sitting,
    although one thing to condsider is that it obviously ran ok when it was
    driven to the place where it was abandoned.
    It's a pretty cool car, 4 cyl turbo intercooled, black leather, clean.
    I have a pretty good background in auto mechanics but am totally
    ignorant about Volvos, but I just really like those wagons, and hence
    would rather enjoy tinkering with it.
    What would your advice be? And what would it be worth if it were up &
    running?
     
    James Goforth, Dec 7, 2005
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  2. James Goforth

    Crazy Dog Guest

    I have no idea about US car prices but it's got to be worth risking even
    if you decide to break it.
     
    Crazy Dog, Dec 7, 2005
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  3. James Goforth

    tom.dave Guest

    Go for it. Sitting for a year and a half isn't all that long and
    shouldn't take much to get it going again. Since you have a mechanical
    background it shouldn't cost much to fix. I bought my 89 turbo wagon
    after it was sitting for that long and once the battery was charged it
    fired up and ran fine with 178K on it. It'll need work but there's
    plenty of resources online and the labor is free. You should be able to
    properly document it and become the new legal owner but it will
    probably be a bit of a hassle dealing with the beuracracy. Even if you
    end up selling it for parts you'll still easily get your money back.

    Dave
     
    tom.dave, Dec 8, 2005
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  4. I'd look into what it's going to take to re-title it before I put any money
    down. A prior lien, for example, could be a major problem.
     
    Ernest Scribbler, Dec 8, 2005
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  5. In <>,
    He's talking about a 760. The last year Volvo made them was 1990.
    You think there's an outstanding 15 year lien, and the bastards at
    the bank haven't repossessed it yet.

    AC
     
    Aawara Chowdhury, Dec 8, 2005
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  6. Used cars often have liens.
     
    Ernest Scribbler, Dec 8, 2005
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    Crazy Dog Guest

    It can't hurt (much) to check and might save major headaches later.
     
    Crazy Dog, Dec 8, 2005
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  8. James Goforth

    e Guest

    Check with your local Motor Vehicles Division on the procedure. Around here
    towing companies have paperwork that allow you to get a salvage title for a
    vehicle. The title is branded but for $300, who cares? The car is worth
    more than $300 in parts even if it never runs again.
     
    e, Dec 8, 2005
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  9. James Goforth

    James Sweet Guest


    Well I'd pay $300 for it, but it's not anywhere near me.

    Running I'd say the value would probably be $1400-$2500 depending on how
    good the condition of everything is and how nicely you polish it up.

    Once you start working on an old Volvo you'll never want to go back.
    Almost everything is so easy and logical, I never find myself getting
    stuck like I did with other cars I worked on.
     
    James Sweet, Dec 8, 2005
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  10. James Goforth

    James Sweet Guest


    In general, if it's a European car, just take the UK value and multiply
    it by 3-5X and you'll have more or less the value in the US, which of
    course varies by location too.


    I've also noticed that people's definition of condition varies quite a
    lot, to some "no rust" seems to mean no visible holes rotted through the
    body, and "no dents" means it hasn't been broadsided by a truck. Others
    like myself are much more nitpicky.
     
    James Sweet, Dec 8, 2005
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  11. No, the only thing about the body is I'm not wild about the color
    (gold, somewhat fading).
    If I am to get this car it may entail removing the driveshaft where it
    sits, as it is in park and there's no key. Question #1: What tool(s)
    would I need for this? Is it a two-piece shaft, etc? I'm not going to
    buy a manual for it until I have it in my posession.
    The car is about 60 miles away from my home but I have just procured a
    trailer.
    Oh the weather outside is frightening... well below zero and lots of
    snow here, somewhat difficult to remove a drive shaft in a (non-paved)
    impound lot.
    I know that many times tow trucks will winch a vehicle onto a flatbed
    with it in park--obviously not the best thing for a transmission but
    I've never heard of it wrecking one either. They MAY have done that
    with this one. Any comments on that?
    I guess the first step is to check out the legalities of the title
    transfer, and when I have the green light on that I"ll just give the
    towing service the $300 and get it when the gettin's good.
    Question #2: Perhaps when it get it titled to my name I can show the
    title and the VIN to a dealer and get a key??
    Since I'm going to need one anyway I may as well have it before I even
    move it.
     
    James Goforth, Dec 9, 2005
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  12. James Goforth

    M-gineering Guest


    if you can't rotate the propshaft, you won't be able to remove the bolts.
    But if you're going to jack the car up why not take out the clevispin in
    the linkage to the transmission, and shift the thing in neutral from below



    --
     
    M-gineering, Dec 9, 2005
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    bfiske Guest

    I one of my older volvos, I was able to "manually" depress the pin that
    holds the shifter in Park. You could reach into the shift handle slot.
     
    bfiske, Dec 9, 2005
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  14. James Goforth

    James Sweet Guest


    It's a two piece shaft, to remove it you'll need a few 14mm and 13mm
    wrenches as I recall, might want to bring a set because the bolts may be
    15mm at one end, I forget. You need to have the transmission in neutral,
    rear wheels off the ground, and it *really* helps to have an assistant
    to work the parking brake while you're underneath.
     
    James Sweet, Dec 9, 2005
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  15. I just went back and looked at the car yesterday in the impound lot,
    to make sure it was still intact, as I hadn't seen it in awhile.
    It has 203K miles on it, BTW. What is generally regarded as the life
    expectancy of those 4 cyl intercooled engines? (I know it's impossible
    to say for sure without knowing what kind of care it's had).
     
    James Goforth, Dec 12, 2005
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  16. James Goforth

    James Sweet Guest


    Like you said, it's impossible to say. Plenty of them running around
    with 300K+ on them though. Realistically, 350K-400K is the most you're
    likely to get before it's getting a bit tired and in need of a rebuild
    but the interior will usually be shot long before the engine is worn out.
     
    James Sweet, Dec 12, 2005
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