reversing aid sensors malfunction

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by lion_elk, Apr 25, 2006.

  1. lion_elk

    lion_elk Guest

    I had a 1998 Volvo S40 (non-automatic) and fitted a Parking Partner
    reversing sensor kit, taking power by tapping into the reverse lamp
    lead, and it worked perfectly.

    I now have a 2003 Volvo S40 automatic. The body is essentially the same
    but the electrics are more sophisticated and less accessible. I asked
    my local (non-Volvo) auto engineers to fit the same kit but it
    repeatedly fired off erratically when nothing was there to trigger the
    sensors. This persisted in spite of trying different earthing points
    and fitting a diode on the 'power' side of the kit (as suggested by the
    kit supplier).

    The local lads substituted a different make of reversing aid and it
    does the same (but worse!). Before trying to run it from an
    alternative 12V DC source (to be switched on/off via a reIay on the
    reverse light circuit), we have tried some logical experiments.

    The guys told me that it worked OK when powered by a stand-alone 12V DC
    battery.

    But when powered from the vehicle's built-in 12V DC cigar lighter
    connector it starts to malfunction (unpredictably) as soon as there is
    any change in electrical function e.g. if the footbrake is applied, the
    windows lowered or whenever the engine is running. It even fires off
    spotaneously every 8 seconds when there is nothing obvious happening to
    account for a voltage change!

    Apart from using a (non-autochargeable) 12V battery pack and replacing
    it when it goes flat, I can't think how to resolve this - can you?

    Lionel
     
    lion_elk, Apr 25, 2006
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  2. Make sure that all earth (ground) connections in the affected lighting
    circuits are up to scratch and that there is no interference with the "bulb
    out" circuitry. You are getting too much of a Volt drop through your other
    lighting circuits (possibly due to bulb failure relay) in the common ground
    (earth) connections.

    All the best, Peter.

    700/900/90 Register Keeper,
    Volvo Owners Club (UK).
     
    Peter K L Milnes, Apr 26, 2006
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  3. lion_elk

    Steve Guest

    Run a small gauge wire under the car where it's away from moving and hot
    parts. Install a small fusable link. Attach directly to the battery.
     
    Steve, Apr 26, 2006
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  4. lion_elk

    lion_elk Guest

    Peter - thanks. I don't unerstand how to identify which ground
    coonections need attention, nor how to check 'bulb-out' function. I'll
    pass it on to the garage guy anyway.

    Lionel
     
    lion_elk, Apr 26, 2006
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  5. lion_elk

    lion_elk Guest

    Steve - this sounds too good to be true - presumably the car battery is
    not subject to the voltage fluctuations happening on the 'other side'
    of the electronically-controlled system such as the cigar-lighter and
    various lighting circuits.

    Thanks, Lionel.
     
    lion_elk, Apr 26, 2006
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  6. lion_elk

    Gary Heston Guest

    The battery isn't as subject to them, but the voltage won't change as
    much at the terminal as it will after going through several feet of
    relatively small diameter wire. Copper is resistive, and there will be
    voltage drop over a run of it, in proportion to current flow. When the
    current changes (blower switching on/off, brake lights, turn signals,
    etc.) you get voltage drops and spikes.

    You can also reduce this problem by using a filter at your reversing
    sensors' power connection.


    Gary
     
    Gary Heston, Apr 27, 2006
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