S80 T6 engine mounts

Hi all,
A question for the board. I have a 2000 S80 T6 with about 58k miles
on it. In the almost 6 years (purchased in Sept 99) that I have owend
it, I have replaced the engine/motor mounts 3 times. While I admit
that I have a tendency to drive a little quickly, I do not "floor it".
I also backed off a little bit on my acceleration after the first
replacement a few years ago.

I just took it in for servicing and did the 3rd replacement. I asked
the service person about the motor mounts for Volvos, and he said that
I should expect to replace them every few years, and that it was normal
for most Volvos, except the S40 and another model that I didn't
recognize.

My husband thinks it is a deficiency in design. I am curious what
other people have experienced with their Volvos. Overall, I love my
car. I bought the extended warranty when the original warranty was
almost up, and most stuff is covered, but that will expire at the end
of 2006.

Thank you in advance for your help.
Cynthia

 

i have a 00 w/135k miles...my mounts are up for
replacement...the are worn "to the eye" so, we are
replacing them.....

your t6 w/only 50k miles on the clock should have
maybe gone through one set (imho)...3 in 50k miles
would indicate something wrong...are you using a volvo dealer
for service?...

 

Believe it or not, but our 2001 V70 2,4T experienced an engine mount
fault just after 24000 kms. Or 2,5 years.

I specifically asked this a few weeks ago in Finland, where this guru of
gurus told me quite frankly, that it's a known issue with our car. Looks
like a fundamental design flaw to me. Never heard anyone complaining
with similat probs with any make or model.

All this actually adds up with the sad story we've experienced with our
our car lately. I do refuse to make final conclusions at this very
point, but I'm starting to get a pretty good overall picture of the
design flaws, which involve yearmodels 1999-2001.

The other ones seem to be:
* ETM
* automatic gearbox (especially 2001)
* engine fan (recall earlier)
* wheel alignment

Hope this cleared a few issues. Have a great weekend!

 

Yes, have used the Volvo dealer for all service, and I service
regularly. The dealer is a reputable dealer. I wouldn't mind
replacing once per 50k, but I am at once per 20k.
Interested in other's experiences.
Cynthia

 

Our 850 has been recalled twice. Both times the dealer said we needed
mounts.
The used Volvo shop I bought the car from said they were fine two times, as
they took ~500 bucks for 30k services from me.

Hummmm.....

 

isnt it true that any seepage or spilliage of oil
or tranny fluid on a engine mount will render them
"failed" and subject to replacement?...

anyone expierencing this situation?

 

And if any toxic birthday cake is accidentally dropped on a motor mount the
entire sub frame must be magnifluxed by an FAA certified specialist. If the
car must be moved to an airport for this inspection to occur the car must be
airlifted, since the FAA holds no authority over ground based transport,
save for aircraft while they taxi about. In a similar vein the FAA
specialist AND his equipment must be airlifted to the location where the car
is if an on site inspection is to take place.

Be glad you do not have a SAAB, in cases where SAAB engine mounts are
suspect all airlifting must be performed by a Saab aircraft!

It's expected that when Honda's new jet comes out the same precautions will
apply to Hondas and Acuras, and a good thing too, for most Japanese motor
mounts are very sensitive to sushi contamination.

The Saab 9-2 is a very complex issue that can not be discussed herein.

***sarcasm mode disengaged***

 

that would cost a pretty penny to
do........

 

Steve...that would cost a pretty penny to
do........ being a pilot, i can just imagine....

 

once per 50k would get me thinkin'....
they are not a "wear item" .....i will
ask my volvo expert next time i see
him, as he is going to do mine...

 

Thats interesting
my V40 is going to the dealer next week as i have excessive vibration while
it idles. sounds like i might have an engine mount problem myself. what were
your symtoms?

 

I suppose you mean the upper eng. mount. If you buy this item you won't have
to change it anymore:
http://www.evolvecars.com/site/index.php?id=197,268,0,0,1,0

/Erik Lidén

 

As I first read you post I thought, "DAMN! A woman who can go through
motor mounts in 20,000 miles!? I wish I wans't married.. Then later,
as I read alnog, "Oh, man! She's already married!" ;-)

I would have to say that even 50,000 miles for a set of motor mounts
sounds rediculous, and 20,000 is a definite problem. I agree with your
husband that this is a design flaw.

Here's one that's even worse: My mom has a 91 Taurus. She bought it
new. It has rubber injected tie rod ends. If the rubber fails, the tie
rod end separates resulting in loss of control. Maybe, in the case of
your motor mounts, Ford's takeover is having an effect.

__ __
Randy & \ \/ /alerie's
\__/olvos
'90 245 Estate - '93 965 Estate
"Shelby" & "Kate"

 

Clive,
I actually had no symptoms two out of the three times. The second
time, I would get a "thump" sound when making a sharp right hand turn.
They were all covered under warranty, so I cannot imagine the dealer
would be making a false report.
Interested in your experience....how many miles on your car?
Cynthia

 

Erik, thanks for the reference on these bushings, I will (actually, my
husband will -- grin) check into it.
Cynthia

 

mine only has 35000 miles on it. i shall report back next weekend after the
dealer has stung me

 

Randy et all,

Righto, happily married to another thrill seeker We both like to
ski fast and drive fast Shoot, I think I am fast, and then he beats
me down the hill. My eyes water from the wind, blurring my vision,
what the heck is happening with his eyes?

Ford takeover was after my purchase, but could affect replacement
parts(which I hadn't thought of before, thank you for that).

I am thinking about your comment about tie ends....another comment was
about the bushings....I know that I am not the only one who drives this
car like I do.

I would REALLY like other S80 owners to tell me what they are
experiencing.

I understand from your responses that 20k replacement on engine mounts
is NOT normal.

Thank you everyone for your help.

Cynthia

 

i drive my s80 hard...but, i am a new owner..purchasing
a used 2000 t6 w/130,000 on it...i will have some useful info
in a year or so...so far, i have driven aprox 10,000 miles..no
problems...i have upgraded to t6 w/the IPD chip, the IPD
beefed up sway bars, and a 2.5" exhaust system...

 

NHTSA Action Number : PE05041 NHTSA Recall Campaign Number : N/A
Make : VOLVO Model: S80
Manufacturer : VOLVO CARS OF N.A. LLC. Year : 2000
Component : VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL
Date Investigation Opened : July 26, 2005
Date Investigation Closed : Open
Summary:
THE OFFICE OF DEFECTS INVESTIGATION (ODI) HAS RECEIVED ONE HUNDRED AND
THIRTY-ONE (131) CONSUMER COMPLAINTS ALLEGING A VARIETY OF CONCERNS
RESULTING FROM FAILURE OF THE ELECTRONIC THROTTLE CONTROL MODULE (ETM)
IN THE SUBJECT VEHICLES, INCLUDING A SUDDEN LOSS OF SPEED AND STEERING
ASSIST WHEN DRIVING IN HIGHWAY TRAFFIC AND SUDDEN AND COMPLETE STALL
WITHOUT WARNING. IN SOME INSTANCES, IT HAS BEEN REPORTED THAT THE
VEHICLES WOULD RESTART, AND IN SOME CASES THE VEHICLES WERE TOWED. SOME
CONSUMERS ALLEGE THAT AFTER HAVING THE ETM REPLACED THE NEW COMPONENT
FAILED IN A SIMILAR MANNER. A PRELIMINARY EVALUATION HAS BEEN OPENED TO
DETERMINE THE SCOPE, FREQUENCY, AND POTENTIAL SAFETY-RELATED
CONSEQUENCES OF THE ALLEGED DEFECT.