Severe run issues- 1990 740T

Discussion in 'Volvo 740' started by jimb, Nov 20, 2008.

  1. jimb

    jimb Guest

    Good day,

    My 740T has started running awful.

    Car is 1990 8 valve 740 turbo with 4 speed/overdrive (M46)
    transmission.

    It is rather cold here.

    Car was warmed up and driving normally. Check engine light came on and
    it driveability went to crap.

    Wife had it so I had to go pick it up as she was afraid to go the last
    few miles to home.

    It starts and idles OK.

    Push accelerator and RPM surges and drops repeatedly and there is no
    power to speak of.

    I managed to get it rolling and up-shift to keep the RPM low and I was
    able to limp home. Good thing there were some downward slopes.

    I am suspecting:

    Failed AMM (electrical connection, dead AMM)

    A clog in airstream

    Dirty throttle body

    Thoughts?

    Side note- amazing that it will chug along in OD at 1000 RPM once it
    is moving.

    TIA
     
    jimb, Nov 20, 2008
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  2. jimb

    Mr. V Guest

    Mr. V, Nov 20, 2008
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  3. jimb

    James Sweet Guest


    Sounds exactly like a bad AMM, could also be a large air leak, such as a
    hose has come off between the turbo and throttle body. If the check
    engine light came on, there should be a stored fault code.
     
    James Sweet, Nov 20, 2008
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  4. jimb

    jimb Guest

    Good day,

    Car was outside and I needed to get it inside.

    Had trouble getting it up the drive.

    Disconnected AMM to see if that helped and it didn't.

    I assume I introduced an error code by this action.

    I have never read error codes before, only seen it done. I am not sure
    how to do it.

    Took a very brief look on Brickboard, but haven't found anything as of
    yet as to the process and readings.

    Only have a crappy manual.

    Did notice oil around where the hose to the turbo attaches to the
    intercooler.

    Will open up air cleaner box today hopefully.

    TIA

    jimB
     
    jimb, Nov 21, 2008
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  5. jimb

    Mr. V Guest

    I've got a hunch.

    Loosen and disconnect the thick hose from the front of the turbo and
    put your finger in there to make certain that the turbine spins freely
    on the shaft.

    If it is frozen: your turbo is toast.
     
    Mr. V, Nov 21, 2008
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  6. jimb

    jimb Guest

    Turbine spins thank goodness.

    jimB
     
    jimb, Nov 21, 2008
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  7. jimb

    James Sweet Guest


    Check and see if the fuel pump is running, it's surprising how long an
    engine will idle on residual pressure in the line.
     
    James Sweet, Nov 21, 2008
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  8. jimb

    jimb Guest

    Well, I drove (in a fashion) about 3 miles plus and moved it around
    the door yard a bit the day after.

    The surging under load must be the key.

    I need to figure out how to fetch the error codes.

    jimB
     
    jimb, Nov 21, 2008
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  9. jimb

    James Sweet Guest


    Have you checked carefully for air leaks? I've seen the rubber boot pop
    off the throttle body before, as well as oil collect and soften it,
    causing a section to blow out the bottom. Coolant temp sensor for the
    ECU fails from time to time as well.
     
    James Sweet, Nov 21, 2008
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  10. jimb

    Mr. V Guest

    Mr. V, Nov 22, 2008
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  11. jimb

    jimb Guest

    jimb, Nov 22, 2008
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  12. jimb

    jimb Guest

    Finally got to dump the OBD codes.

    For the Fuel Injection (in order):

    232 Fuel trim (lambda control) too lean or too rich at idle
    223 Signal missing to/from idle air control valve
    121 Faulty signal to/from Air Mass Meter

    The third (and maybe all) I would imagine that I induced by
    disconnecting the AMM in order to "limp home"

    Cleared the codes & started the car...

    Check Engine light went out on it's own, car still runs crappy, light
    did not come on, no new codes.

    For the ignition (in order):

    234 Throttle Position Switch (TPS) idle signal faulty
    214 RPM sensor signal absent intermittently

    I have not cleared these as of yet to see if they come back.

    I am in very unfamiliar territory here. Last car I really worked on
    had a carburetor and breaker points.

    TIA
     
    jimb, Dec 1, 2008
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  13. jimb

    James Sweet Guest

    A bad RPM signal could certainly explain poor running. That could be the
    crank angle sensor, IIRC this is mounted to the back of the engine block
    pointing down in the top of the bellhousing on a '90. TPS switch is easy
    enough to check, it may just be out of adjustment.

    121 and 232 could certainly be caused by unplugging the AMM. Not sure
    about 223.
     
    James Sweet, Dec 1, 2008
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  14. jimb

    jimb Guest

    That was Diagnostic Test 1

    Will do the component tests (2 & 3) In a bit


    TIA
     
    jimb, Dec 1, 2008
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  15. jimb

    jimb Guest

    Did test 2...

    TPS and Crank Sensor test OK

    TIA

    jimB
     
    jimb, Dec 1, 2008
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