well...i guess i have to "eat some crow" in front of the whols ng now..... i just wrote out my deposit check for another (my 2nd) s80... after driving a number of used volvo models...tweeking my 93 940t up to almost 300 hp...(i am on my 3rd tranny).....and renting, test driving, borowing, sitting in the rear to check legroom ... etc .... on as number of other volvos ... for the $, I couldn't pass up or walk away from this deal. its a moondust 2000 t5 w/all options (listed for k) prem sound, 17" wheels, safety glass, etc....w 130k miles (high, I know) ... complete dealer service records ... Clean no dings body paint in xlt condition .... for ,500 .. overall, if running right...the turbo s80 is a nice sized, and featured sedan...i will know more of what i am gettin' into in the next week or so. the 93 940t goes to the kids for a high school car (after some de tunning, of course)... but, it l@@ks like i am back in the s80 club....