SMART cars in the US

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by snowboardsex.com, Nov 5, 2005.

  1. I have heard for some time that the SMART car (75mpg) is coming to the
    US. Then last week I heard that a dealer in Portland has started a
    waiting list for the cars.

    Anybody have any more information???


    Bill

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    snowboardsex.com, Nov 5, 2005
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    byrocat Guest

    I think that a little vacation up in the Great WHite North is in order.
    May still have waiting list but at elast you can see what they are
    like.

    It is EMBARASSING when one of these little doodlebugs blows past your
    Volvo s40, and you're doing 120 KPH (65 MPH)

    It fits two adults and briefcases (or picnic basket) comforatably.
    Really an inner-city or urban transport but I've seen a lot with
    corporate logos (courier and blueprint).
     
    byrocat, Nov 5, 2005
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    Randy G. Guest

    Check here: http://www.smartcarofamerica.com/

    http://www.smartcar-owner.co.uk/brief_model_details.htm
    http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2005/06/08/smart-car-plus-gsxr-equals-smartuki-a-very-smart-car

    Check the "Roadster" here:
    http://tinyurl.com/bh6ng
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    Randy G., Nov 5, 2005
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    Martijn Guest

    The Smart is some time now over here in The Netherlands, the Smart four by
    four is made over here.
    I heard some bad things about the lifespan of the engine. It's value after a
    few years is also low.
    Think twice.
     
    Martijn, Nov 6, 2005
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    m-gineering Guest

    Funny handling when all the electronics kick in, same money buys a
    proper car
     
    m-gineering, Nov 6, 2005
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    torpainter Guest

    gat any speeding tickets ? 120= 74
     
    torpainter, Nov 6, 2005
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    Marc Onrust Guest

    [snip]

    They had some engine problems indeed, but as far as I know that was solved a
    couple of years ago already. The value after a few years is low but that is
    partly because they are fairly cheap to buy. In other words, depreciation is
    not really bad.

    Marc
    (also from The Netherlands. Not a Smart owner/employee/shareholder by the way)
     
    Marc Onrust, Nov 6, 2005
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    Randy G. Guest

    In 1987 I was motorcycling on the Autobahn, two-up (with pillion
    passenger) and camping grar on a BMW R75/6. We were doing about
    75-80mph (120kph) in the #2 lane. In my mirror I saw a car overtaking
    us in the #1 lane. It was a VW rabbit GTI. As it went by I
    instinctively turned my head away and squinted a bit. it was probably
    going about 100mph (140kph) and it mst have been near redline becasue
    the motor sounded like it was about to puke pushrods and pistons all
    over the roadway.

    Whay was I only doing 80mph? The bike had bad rings and that's about
    as fast as it would go without fouling the plugs.


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    '90 245 Estate - '93 965 Estate
    "Shelby" & "Kate"
     
    Randy G., Nov 6, 2005
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  9. When my daughter went to France about 5 years ago she reported there were
    SMART cars everywhere - parked, being towed, anything but driven.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Nov 6, 2005
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    jg Guest

    I think they cost about as much as a "family" 6 cyl here in Australia. Like
    scooters which have virtually replaced mopeds, imported for about $400AUS &
    sell for $2000AUS... "if yer want economy it'll cost yer, mate".
     
    jg, Nov 7, 2005
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    Marc Onrust Guest

    I agree that, considering their size, they are not the cheapest of all cars. But
    overhere they are in no way to be compared to large saloons. But then again,
    large cars (or rather: all cars) are relatively expensive in Holland. Even
    better, apart from Denmark we're the most expensive country in Europe regarding
    cars.
     
    Marc Onrust, Nov 7, 2005
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    Kytis Guest

    What the hell? I though we Finns have that questionable honor to be on
    top of the most expensive country regarding cars ;) Taxes on cars are
    basically a punishment for owing a private vehicle :eek:)
     
    Kytis, Nov 7, 2005
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    Marc Onrust Guest

    Well, in Finland it may be a punishment for owning a vehicle, overhere it is
    just another way for our government to make big money :-(
    Car manufacturers even reduce the net price (without all taxes) of cars because
    otherwise (with all taxes) they would be too expensive and they would not sell
    any.
     
    Marc Onrust, Nov 7, 2005
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    Kytis Guest

    That "punishment" line was meant to be a sarcastic joke :) The truth is
    that drivers in Finland feel that way anyway.

    The cheapest tax-free cars in Europe can be purchased in either Denmark
    or Finland. Believe me, I had to double check, since we have bought two
    new Volvo's through Finnish Diplomatic Sales over the last years...
     
    Kytis, Nov 7, 2005
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    byrocat Guest

    torpainter, no speeding tickets yet.

    The OPP (Ontario Provincial Police) target dangerous and high-speed
    drivers ahead of people who are "going with the flow", loike me

    At the point where I got passed, the posted limit was 90KPH (54 MPH)
    but is a straight four-lane dividded highway well away from urban
    areas.

    I've had a few cars howl past me doing at least 40-50 KPH (25-30 MPH)
    over what the flow of traffic is doing and weaving in and out without
    turn signals. Those are the guys that Sgt. Cam Wooley includes in his
    holiday-weekend reports, as well as the cars that are dangerously
    unsafe (holes in floorboards, things loose in the back of pickups,
    eating with both hands while steering with knees....)
     
    byrocat, Nov 7, 2005
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    James Sweet Guest


    I dunno, I've never paid more than $4000 for a car and I've certainly
    paid much less. There'll always be people who buy new cars regardless of
    their cost, so there'll always be a plentiful supply of good used cars.
     
    James Sweet, Nov 8, 2005
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    Marc Onrust Guest

    Kytis wrote:

    [snip]
    I know, I tend to react in a sarcastic way as well when it concerns taxes :)
    Then at least the people in Finland and in The Netherlands share some
    feelings :)

    [snip]
     
    Marc Onrust, Nov 8, 2005
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    Volvo Man Guest

    Here in the UK I've seen many broken down on the motorway.

    I've also had the misfortune to drive one and it may just be that one
    (and my hate of them) but the automatic gear changes are diabloical - it
    tries changing gear then it seems as though it has to count to what gear
    it's in, the little man looks on the piece of paper...

    Then again anything I can't use with enough space to move house withing
    a few trips (or a car where I can't turn the back into a temporary bed
    for the night. :) ) I'm not happy about. As well as being biased. :)
     
    Volvo Man, Nov 11, 2005
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    M.R.S. Guest

    Well, yes, they are fuel efficient. However, I think that the car is a
    total compromise. If you can live with a motorcycle every day, then this
    car is for you.

    Otherwise a Toyota Echo hatchback (not available in the US either), or the
    new Toyota Yaris (will be available in the US soon), would be a MUCH better
    alternative. The Yaris is a ULEV II compliant vehicle, makes the
    environmentalists happy (almost as good as a Prius). It is also MUCH more
    powerful.

    The smart 0-60 is about 20 seconds, the Yaris?? well, at least the Echo
    Hatchback did it in less than 9 (somewhere around 8.5). Which is GREAT!!
    The Yaris has 2 less hp than the Echo, but the same engine (tuned to be ULEV
    II compliant).

    I have a 760, and I love it. It is not fuel efficient, it does put out more
    smog than I would wish (compared to a small car, which is all I really
    need).... but it is a great driving car. I am so impressed with the
    durability. 290K kms and still going strong.

    I WAS planning on buying a new car, but this thing just won't die. My
    choice was the Echo Hatch or the new Yaris. They are really good cars, bare
    bones basic, but both have cup holders (and my 760 doesn't!!, which is ok).

    Cheers
     
    M.R.S., Nov 13, 2005
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  20. That is my situation, too! We use the 760 for its hauling capacity and I
    commute with it, but if I were to choose a car now it wouldn't fit my needs
    well. I've been saying "when the turbo goes out, the car isn't worth it to
    me"... but I've been saying that for 5 years now. At 23xK miles it still has
    the original turbo and always gets me where I want to go (unless it gets
    stuck in slushy snow). Die, curse you, so I can get a shiny new car!

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Nov 13, 2005
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