springs again

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Randy G., Nov 15, 2005.

  1. Randy G.

    Randy G. Guest

    No free lunch when it comes to suspension. If you set the rear end to
    handle better AND handle the load, when empty it will sit high and run
    stiff. That is why Volvo did the Nivomats for some wagons- it allowed
    a level ride regardless of load. Sure, there are better handling
    shocks, but you can't have our cake and eat it as well. Air shocks
    might be an option, or air assist springs.

    38PSI might "seem" to handle well, but logic would seem to indicate
    that it probably would not handle as well as would 33-35 or so. At 38
    they won't heat up as well and will offer a smaller contact patch.

    Adding a stabilizer bar (anti-roll bar) would probably be the best
    start. Keeping the car level on corners is critical for handling.


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    Randy & \ \/ /alerie's
    \__/olvos
    '90 245 Estate - '93 965 Estate
    "Shelby" & "Kate"
     
    Randy G., Nov 15, 2005
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  2. Randy G.

    James Sweet Guest


    You can swap the springs, as I did, but the wagon springs don't feel
    significantly harder than the sedan springs did so I'm not sure there's
    any difference. On the 240 the wagon springs feel substantially stiffer.
     
    James Sweet, Nov 15, 2005
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  3. Randy G.

    Dick Brown Guest

    Adding a stabilizer bar (anti-roll bar) would probably be the best
    Sorry to hijack the thread, but do the 240 Wagons have these stabiliser
    bars on the rear as standard? If not, can they be retro fitted like the
    700's?

    Cheers.
     
    Dick Brown, Nov 15, 2005
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  4. IPD (www.ipdusa.com) and probably other sources have "overload springs" to
    allow normal shocks to be used on these models. When the Nivomats went out
    on our 765T, I went to the overload springs and Boge (IIRC) shocks. They
    work great.

    I was amazed at how easy it was to change the rear springs. Once I had the
    shocks out, there was only a single bolt holding each spring.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Nov 16, 2005
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  5. Randy G.

    James Sweet Guest


    Yes all 240's have swaybars standard, the turbos have somewhat thicker
    ones that can be put on any 240 for a signficant handling improvement.
    IPD sells aftermarket bars that are even better.
     
    James Sweet, Nov 16, 2005
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  6. Can some one please tell me is it possible to fit the springs of a wagon
    into a sedan in an effort to tighten up the rear end on my 1990 turbo ?.Its
    not sagging just seems soft handling .As well with my wife son and myself
    ,an 82 litre tank full, its a bit low to the ground .Did the front end with
    gas shockers back one are fine just those springs dont seem taunt enough .I
    put 225 x50x 16 inch tyres on and they do a good job as my older Pirellis
    seemed to be hard with age as well as low on tread .The Fulda extremo at 38
    psi seem to grip well .Incidentally the Pirellis were 205x 55x 16 .
     
    John Robertson, Nov 16, 2005
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  7. Randy G.

    Mike F Guest

    That's assuming he doesn't have a 760 sedan, which would have the
    multilink rear suspension. In that case, the only choices are new
    Nivomats or a kit from IPD (ipdusa.com). On the solid axle cars, wagon
    springs are a good upgrade.

    --
    Mike F.
    Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont.

    Replace tt with t (twice!) and remove parentheses to email me directly.
    (But I check the newsgroup more often than this email address.)
     
    Mike F, Nov 16, 2005
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  8. THANKS GUYS btw my front sway bar is only 21 mm and my rear 19 mm thought
    they would be thicker .So maybe a heavier sway bar and wagon springs will
    tighten it up .
     
    John Robertosn, Nov 18, 2005
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