starter problem getting real expensive

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by inventor, Mar 12, 2008.

  1. inventor

    inventor Guest

    I have a 1987 volvo 740 that developed a starting problem, I would
    turn the key and just get a loud click from the solenoid but the
    starter wouldnt go. Since it was the original starte,r I bought a
    rebuilt unit and installed it myself . w

    Well all was good for about 4 days then at the worst time possible,
    in the pouring rain, me with a headache and starving to death I got
    the dreaded turn the key and click symptom again. I played with it
    for 2 hours before giving up and calling for a tow.

    The garage that took the car diagnosed it as a bad starter and put in
    another one. Well........it worked for half a day. I got stuck in
    another parking lot and had to call the mechanic back. They towed the
    car back to the shop and have it now. They believe it is just another
    bum starter and will probably put in another one.

    Now if this solves the problem great, but I find it hard to believe
    that I can buy two bum starters in a row. Can it be something else????

    I have a good battery, with clean terminals, and good voltage so it
    can't be that. It won't start in park or neutral so I doubt its that
    particular switch what ever it is called. My only idea is that it is
    the little green wire that goes to the solenoid. Not sure what it
    does. Any ideas here would really help. Thanks.
     
    inventor, Mar 12, 2008
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  2. inventor

    James Sweet Guest


    Are you buying new starters or rebuilds? I've had a dead rebuild before, but
    then I've had one last years too. It's pretty easy to diagnose and any auto
    parts store will test a starter for you. The little wire supplies voltage
    when you turn the key, it's what triggers the solenoid to turn the starter
    on.
     
    James Sweet, Mar 12, 2008
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  3. inventor

    inventor Guest

    James, they were both rebuilts not new. I am getting a click from
    the solenoid on both of them.
     
    inventor, Mar 12, 2008
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  4. inventor

    James Sweet Guest

    Monitor the voltage at the big terminal when someone turns the key. If it
    stays at roughly 12V when the solenoid clicks then the starter is bad. If it
    drops way low then you have a bad connection in the heavy red wire.
     
    James Sweet, Mar 13, 2008
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    inventor Guest

    Ok Thanks, I will try that. Other thing I just thought of i wonder if
    it is a bad battery to engine ground wire I will check that also. My
    bet it that its just two bad rebuilds in a row. but I will give it a
    go tommorrow with my voltmeter.
     
    inventor, Mar 13, 2008
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    mjc13 Guest


    I think it's the battery ground connection.
     
    mjc13, Mar 13, 2008
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    James Sweet Guest

    If that's the case, the interior lights will dim or go out when the key is
    turned.
     
    James Sweet, Mar 13, 2008
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    mjc13 Guest

    Good point, although some dimming is normal. I'd look for severe
    dimming or the lights going out.
     
    mjc13, Mar 13, 2008
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  9. inventor

    inventor Guest

    It was the heavy red wire. My mechanic said there was a huge voltage
    drop. It was corroded at the battery connector so he cut the cable
    and soldered on a new connector. Good call James. I just wish he
    had checked that earlier. Now I have two rebuild, perfectly fine
    starters, the original starter was probably just fine, a $300 bill
    plus $200 for car rental. Oh well at least its running again.
     
    inventor, Mar 14, 2008
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    James Sweet Guest

    That stinks. The cable should have been the first thing the mechanic checked
    before condemning the original starter.
     
    James Sweet, Mar 14, 2008
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    richgannon12 Guest

    wait a minute, you said it won't start in park or neutral. There is a
    neutral safety switch the will only allow it to start in park and
    neutral, and there is an over ride I believe that is a push button to
    the right of the floor shift that can stick and has to be sprayed with
    soething like wd40 and picked at to make it pop up.If this has been
    pushed down though the key will not be able to come out of the key
    switch
     
    richgannon12, Mar 28, 2008
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