still hard to start

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by jacktheboy, May 18, 2007.

  1. jacktheboy

    jacktheboy Guest

    1990 240 wagon with 200k
    Replaced AMM with correct unit, still get frequent hard starts.
    First start of the day can take two or three tries, with extended
    cranking times. Throughout the day, might start on first try like it
    always did, might not.
    I'm thinking maybe Crank Position Sensor. But this is not a "Hot"
    hard start problem.
    Car runs fine when running
     
    jacktheboy, May 18, 2007
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  2. jacktheboy

    jacktheboy Guest

    I forgot to add, that when I replaced the AMM the large hose going up
    to the manifold had what could be described as a fair amount of oil in
    it. That is, pooling in the ridged hose of maybe a teaspoon of oil.
    Enough that you could pour out a few slow drops, because of the
    ridges.
    Signs or symptoms of what?
     
    jacktheboy, May 18, 2007
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  3. I don't know how the 240 induction is laid out, but that could be a sign of
    a properly operating Volvo crankcase ventilation system - really! Wherever
    the large hose from the flame trap (or the "Y" housing that can hold a flame
    trap) connects to the intake ducts, a significant amount of oil mist is
    brought in. It normally coats the inside of the ducts and pools in low
    spots. It isn't good for the ducts and softens the bottoms, but there isn't
    any actual "fix."

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, May 18, 2007
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  4. Have you tried the test for leaky checkback valve (or anything else that
    lets the fuel rail pressure bleed off)? Hit the starter for about half a
    second and let the key drop back to the "run" position for 3-5 seconds, then
    try starting. If it starts right up it indicates the fuel pressure has bled
    off from the injector rail while the engine was sitting. The "bump" of the
    starter runs the fuel pump about five seconds to restore pressure. You'd
    think the engine would fire as soon as pressure was regained - just a few
    seconds - but in practice ECUs start messing with the mixture by that time
    and the engine won't catch. Stupid computers! Eventually it stumbles on the
    right injection.

    Alternatively, you can spray a few seconds worth of starting fluid into the
    air filter and close up the air cleaner box before trying to start in the
    morning. That will at least tell you if all you are missing is fuel.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, May 18, 2007
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