The stereo's connected to the... taillight?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Tim McNamara, Feb 5, 2005.

  1. Tim McNamara

    Tim McNamara Guest

    My 1990 240 has been acting oddly.

    Specifically I had an aftermarket stereo installed at Best Buy about 3
    1/2 years ago. A couple of winters ago it started cutting out- the
    sound would stop, the display would go out and eventually it would
    come back on. It would lose the radio presets and the clock would not
    keep good time. It seemed to be random. It would happen if the car
    was parked, sometimes would happen if I turned right, sometimes
    happened if I hit a bump.

    I haven't had time to take the car back to Best Buy to have them check
    it out, but have assumed it's a problem with the wiring, specifically
    the power supply. (I know what you're thinking- "two years you've put
    up with that? You slacker!" True.)

    Three days ago I noticed an intermittent "light out" indicator on the
    dash. I traced this to the right rear taillight. Wiggling the socket
    rendered the light operative and I noticed as I got back in the car
    that the stereo had cut out and was just coming back on. "Huh"
    thought I. Well, ever since then the stereo has been performing
    perfectly. The clock keeps time, it doesn't cut out.

    My question is: WTF? How does an intermittent connection in the
    taillight affect the stereo? Does this indicate bigger problems?

    Thanks in advance to people who actually understand car wiring and
    elecctricity... I am not one of them.
     
    Tim McNamara, Feb 5, 2005
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  2. Tim McNamara

    James Sweet Guest

    If you have corroded fuses in the fusebox you'll get all sorts of weird
    electrical gremlins since voltage will sometimes feed back through
    unexpected paths. Loose or corroded ground connections can cause wierdness
    too.
     
    James Sweet, Feb 5, 2005
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  3. Some stereos have a connection to the taillights for dimming the display
    when the lights are on (on the theory it will be dark when your lights are
    on). Exactly how this relates to your problem I sure don't know. You slacker
    ;-)

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Feb 5, 2005
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  4. Tim McNamara

    Tim McNamara Guest

    I'll check the fuses more closely- they looked OK when I looked at
    them but it was fairly cursory for the most part. I really only
    checked the one for the stereo closely.

    Hmmm, ground connections... I popped the stereo out of the dash to
    check to see if there were obvious problems with the wiring of that,
    and I did see that the negative ground wire for the stereo wasn't
    connected to anything. Could that be the culprit? What should it be
    attached to?

    However, why would the taillight affect it (assuming that's the
    cause and it's not just coincidence)? Nothing else in the car seemed
    affected.
     
    Tim McNamara, Feb 5, 2005
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  5. Tim McNamara

    Tim McNamara Guest

    Interesting. How common is this?
    Sad but true...
     
    Tim McNamara, Feb 5, 2005
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  6. Tim McNamara

    Jim Carriere Guest

    The backlighting on the radio in my S70 is bright when the headlight
    switch is all the way to the left (daytime). Any other position, and
    it adjusts to the bright...dim dash light switch.
     
    Jim Carriere, Feb 5, 2005
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  7. Tim McNamara

    James Sweet Guest


    Yes that most certainly will cause a problem, assuming you're *sure* that
    wire is the negative, connect it to ground, there's some screws with other
    ground wires on them behind the center console with the switches and heater
    controls, just put a crimp-on hoop connector and stick it on one of those
    screws.
     
    James Sweet, Feb 5, 2005
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  8. The ground should definitely be stuck under a screw in the metal part of the
    body. Relying on the mounting to provide a ground is bad form.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Feb 5, 2005
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  9. Pretty common - I'd guess about half the models available do that.
    We should form a club, maybe have jackets!

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Feb 5, 2005
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  10. Tim McNamara

    Tim McNamara Guest

    Well, the wire has a pre-printed label on it that says "negative
    ground" so I assume that's what it is. It's got a "C" terminal on the
    end of it.

    How do I tell which is the screw with ground wires attached to it
    (just so I don't screw it down to something else and fry things)?
     
    Tim McNamara, Feb 5, 2005
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  11. Tim McNamara

    Tim McNamara Guest

    Wow. Who knew? Not me, obviously!
    I'll get around to that when I have time.
     
    Tim McNamara, Feb 5, 2005
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  12. If it is the body of the car (usually painted the same color as the
    exterior) you have the right place. Scrape away any paint under the screw
    first, even if there are other wires already there.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Feb 5, 2005
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  13. Tim McNamara

    James Sweet Guest

    Any screw that goes into metal attached to the body of the car will work,
    it'll be fairly obvious when you get in there.
     
    James Sweet, Feb 6, 2005
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  14. Tim McNamara

    Tim McNamara Guest

    Thanks!
     
    Tim McNamara, Feb 6, 2005
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  15. Tim McNamara

    Tim McNamara Guest

    Simple enough. Thanks!
     
    Tim McNamara, Feb 6, 2005
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    vinran1 Guest

    My "new" 89 780 has the old Sony cassette/equalizer setup, and just
    has a couple of indicator lights on, very faint high frequency noise,
    thought i actually heard a radio station it today, but have a wiring
    issue some where in the setup.
    (Car had water damage previously, and just now getting into the stereo
    issue, since I need sound other than the usual and unusual mechanical
    sounds I here)

    I did notice that the wiring diagram for mine shows this dimmer wire
    connection, too.

    Although I don't think that's my particular problem, it is interesting
    so see that feature.

    Alas, I will probably opt for a good aftermarket stero even if I get
    this one working, since my cassettes are pretty dusty these days and
    cd's are so much better sounding.

    Wlil keep the original stereo and 2 Sony amps in case I want to
    replace them as original equipment in the far off day I actually sell
    the black beauty of a Bertone.

    This vehicle definately has some extensive wiring harnesses running
    all through it I am discovering!


    Good luck with yours. I'd always check the voltages into the radio
    before going further, should be I think a constant 12V. line (green),
    another 12v. line that's on when the key is on (red) and of course the
    grounds, which are usually black in most 12volt negative ground
    systems.

    A cheap volt-meter can save you some money over the long haul.

    Of course a really good meter will last a good long time....
     
    vinran1, Feb 6, 2005
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